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Old 05-11-2015, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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So...when is the ACLU going to join the fight against Obamacare? Government making the purchase of a private product mandatory...don't see that in the BOR anywhere. Where was the ACLU a couple years ago?

 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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Weird.....when why does big pharma donate far more to Republicans

https://www.opensecrets.org/industri...us.php?ind=H04
2008,09,10 the most went to (D)'s.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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So...when is the ACLU going to join the fight against Obamacare? Government making the purchase of a private product mandatory...don't see that in the BOR anywhere. Where was the ACLU a couple years ago?
You mean the thing that the supreme court declared constitutional? Go read up on what cases the ACLU covers.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:05 PM
 
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2008,09,10 the most went to (D)'s.
sooo out of the 24 year time period covered they funded Democrats more......by a slim margin.

And somehow those 3 out of 24 years suddenly makes them all about the democrats? How about the OTHER 21 years?
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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sooo out of the 24 year time period covered they funded Democrats more......by a slim margin.

And somehow those 3 out of 24 years suddenly makes them all about the democrats? How about the OTHER 21 years?
The remark you replied to was about the Obamacare period.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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Come back?

It's here.

And, it's entrenched!

"In the last few decades since the “mysterious” autism epidemic began in the late 1980s, the giant pharmaceutical companies, free from the constraints of medico-legal liability, began pumping out more and more highly profitable vaccines, and their lobbyists in D.C., their well-paid spokespersons and the industry-co-opted “regulatory agencies” (like WHO, the CDC, the FDA and NIH) rejoiced."

Aluminum and the Neurotoxicity of Vaccines | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
"For an example of outrageous lunacy, take the upcoming Globalist treaty, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). When ratified by 12 nations (Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, the United States and Vietnam), it will establish the right of corporations to bypass national courts and demand that their products be sold, without tariffs, without concern for workers who are paid slave wages, without concern for poisoning the environment with toxic chemicals."

"This is a secret treaty. In Australia, it will be signed by the cabinet before any supporting legislation is considered."

"Did you catch that last part? Australia’s own elected legislators haven’t read the treaty. They’re not permitted to. In the US, legislators have only had access to limited sections."

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...secret-treaty/
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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The remark you replied to was about the Obamacare period.
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The progressive left would be adrift without big pharma. It's why they squealed so much in panic as the Supreme Court was judging ACA 2010's constitutionality.
The progressive left would be adrift? Sooo...RIGHT NOW the Republicans get far more money from Big Pharma. Is the progressive left adrift? Were they before? Seriously, its nonsense, and trying to pin the progressive left as being for the big pharma. The response from mm, and from you is "ignore the HUGE amount given to the Republicans....for these 3 years the Democrats got SLIGHTLY more....so lets blame them, and ignore the other 21 years!"
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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So...when is the ACLU going to join the fight against Obamacare? Government making the purchase of a private product mandatory...don't see that in the BOR anywhere. Where was the ACLU a couple years ago?
Snorting Dristan, but they're tired of it.

"Now back to vaccines. We’re told that literally dozens of vaccines are now necessary to maintain health…even as a great many other diseases seem to be on the rise."

An Obvious Question About Vaccination

"But something strange is happening in the world of immunology lately and a small evidence of it is that the Godfather of Autoimmunology is pointing to vaccines – specifically, some of their ingredients including the toxic metal aluminum – as a significant contributor to the growing global epidemic of autoimmune diseases. The bigger evidence is a huge body of research that's poured in in the past 15 years, and particularly in the past five years. Take for example, a recent article published in the journal Pharmacological Research in which Shoenfeld and colleagues issue unprecedented guidelines naming four categories of people who are most at risk for vaccine-induced autoimmunity."

Attacking Ourselves: Top Doctors Reveal Vaccines Turn Our Immune

"It is often stated that vaccination rarely leads to serious adverse events. Unfortunately, this statement is not supported by science. A recent study done in Ontario, Canada, established that vaccination actually leads to an emergency room visit for 1 in 168 children following their 12-month vaccination appointment and for 1 in 730 children following their 18-month vaccination appointment (see appendix for a scientific study, Item #5)."

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/ope...obukhanych-phd
 
Old 05-11-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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mm's statement:


The progressive left would be adrift? Sooo...RIGHT NOW the Republicans get far more money from Big Pharma. Is the progressive left adrift? Were they before? Seriously, its nonsense, and trying to pin the progressive left as being for the big pharma. The response from mm, and from you is "ignore the HUGE amount given to the Republicans....for these 3 years the Democrats got SLIGHTLY more....so lets blame them, and ignore the other 21 years!"
Ignoring either party is lame. Obamacare was nothing but a huge giveaway to the pharma and insurance industries and that the (R)'s get so much is why Boehner lied about trying to overturn it.
 
Old 05-11-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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That's funny because its similar to how the flu vaccine is attributed to saving people from death from all causes. That incudes car accidents, falls in the shower, etc.
Going to have to say those words you always hate to hear.

Where is your source for your claim?
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