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Old 05-12-2015, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I'm still trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be upset about.

Am I supposed to be angry that she didn't go there and lie directly to their faces about objective reality?
Why would you think you're supposed to be angry over this or any topic? As the OP this didn't anger me. It made me laugh at how pathetic Mooch really is. If anything it incites anger in the audience.

 
Old 05-12-2015, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Edina, MN, USA
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Sounds like she's taken off her political mask a little early.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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You know she could have used some of Booker T Washington's famous quotes as a basis for her speech instead of the "victim" speech she gave:

"Nothing ever comes to one, that is worth having, except as a result of hard work."

"Associate yourself with people of good quality, for it is better to be alone than in bad company."

OR better yet...

"The individual who can do something that the world wants done will, in the end make his way regardless of his race."

Man, he was a wise one! Michelle...not so much.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I consider myself pretty liberal. I applaud the fact that Michelle Obama has tried to get children to eat healthier. However, I have always felt the Obamas have made race relations worse in this country, not better. They always seem to interject a comment about race or discrimination at every possible opportunity they get. Treyvon Martin ring a bell?

As far as them, (the Obamas), being discriminated against, her husband did get elected to the highest office in the land, twice. What more do you want?

In regards to people rushing to judge by the sound of a name, I know when I hear a name on the local news like Abdul, Rashan, Treyvon, or Tammika, lets be honest and stop kidding ourselves, they're black names.

Whether you're black, white, red, yellow, or brown, there will always be people that you can never do enough for. That doesn't pertain just to black people.

Michelle Obama sounds like the girl that never got over an old boyfriend. Even though they broke up she talks about that old boyfriend every chance she gets. That what that speech sounded like to me. Instead of telling the graduates what wonderful achievement this is in their lives and what opportunities that degree can afford them, she focuses on the past.

In the relationship forum there was a thread a few days ago asking if its good to remain friends with your exes. My answer was that unless there's children involved, no. You can't move forward while looking in the rear view mirror. Michelle Obama needs to apply that to her life as well
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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This link has some of the text for those who can't access the video:

Michelle Obama on being black:


And my husband and I know how frustrating that experience can be. We’ve both felt the sting of those daily slights throughout our entire lives -- the folks who crossed the street in fear of their safety; the clerks who kept a close eye on us in all those department stores; the people at formal events who assumed we were the “help” -- and those who have questioned our intelligence, our honesty, even our love of this country.

And I know that these little indignities are obviously nothing compared to what folks across the country are dealing with every single day -- those nagging worries that you’re going to get stopped or pulled over for absolutely no reason; the fear that your job application will be overlooked because of the way your name sounds; the agony of sending your kids to schools that may no longer be separate, but are far from equal; the realization that no matter how far you rise in life, how hard you work to be a good person, a good parent, a good citizen -- for some folks, it will never be enough. (Applause.)

It's sad really. This woman is at the tippy-top of the ladder of success, and when she looks in the mirror all she ever sees is skin color. Her husband is the twice elected president of the United states. Every whim or desire is catered to, and still, her anger and bitterness flow out from her in this commencement speech which was nothing but a poor-pity-me-scree.

Michelle wallows in a morass resentment and self pity, I don't think there is a ladder with a rung high enough for Michelle to climb out of that ocean of self pity she chooses to live in. no matter what she accomplishes in life, no matter what rung of success she and her husband climb they will never escape their own self pity and deep seated feeling of resentment.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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Guys, read some of Booker T Washington's quotes...everything Michelle said is pretty much opposite of what he says.

Booker T. Washington Quotes - BrainyQuote

Ironic, since the school is named after him.

Not's not a racist thing but a character thing...
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Anyone watch or read the entire speech? It was remarkable.

How dare a well educated black woman tell the graduating class how it was/ is. The bottom line was " so what" - other people's perceptions, opinions and noise do not define you.

It's a very similar message Dr Ben Carson communicates to black student audiences. He was often mistaken for an orderly because people could not imagine a young black man was a MD. Patients refused to be seen by him because Of the color of his skin.

Too bad some white conservative media continues to pander to an audience that has a serious issue with black people who recognize they have a choice and choose to not allow other people to define their worth based on the color of their skin.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:08 AM
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Democrats and folks. The Nat. Socialist German Workers Party even named its automobile for folks.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Hey, Michelle - I've been mistaken for the help before and I'm the whitest person I know. I've also suffered "little indignities" - and bigger ones, including my best not being enough for some people.

The difference is that I don't assume that it's my skin tone, or my gender, or my looks, or my name, or (fill in the blank) when other people are rude or dismissive to me. I just assume they're jerks. This world is full of them, and they come wrapped in every color of skin.
 
Old 05-12-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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Sounds like she's taken off her political mask a little early.
Well, she sure isn't too 'full o' th' milk of human kindness'.
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