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Old 06-04-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I don't think you accept facts. Obama has been in office for over SIX YEARS. Things have gotten worse, not better, and we are less safe than in 2008.
Yeah, definitely less safe :





The economy was in complete freefall in 2008-2009. Not only is that not the case in 2015, we're closing in on full employment. Only in LimbaughLand have things gotten worse since the Great Failure left office.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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LOL someone puts silly colors on a graph and thinks theve proven their point.

well a lie in word or a lie in silly colored bar graphs is still a lie.

to suggest that there has been ONE Islamic attack under Mr. Obama's presidency in the US is just silly.

that begs the question. if a silly bar graph lies about one thing, what else is it lying about?
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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I was under the impression drone use was increased under the Obama administration and subsequently killed 100's of innocent people including women and children.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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Yeah, definitely less safe :





The economy was in complete freefall in 2008-2009. Not only is that not the case in 2015, we're closing in on full employment. Only in LimbaughLand have things gotten worse since the Great Failure left office.
Holy cow, I was in Istanbul in July 2008 (I think it was the last week), glad I didn't know about that, I would have freaked out. Best city I've ever been to btw.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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Bush Jr. Without a single doubt in my mind. Right behind him is Reagan and Lincoln.
Wrong.....I would say OBAMA!!!! (W/o looking @ any pages)
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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LOL someone puts silly colors on a graph and thinks theve proven their point.

well a lie in word or a lie in silly colored bar graphs is still a lie.

to suggest that there has been ONE Islamic attack under Mr. Obama's presidency in the US is just silly.

that begs the question. if a silly bar graph lies about one thing, what else is it lying about?


Do you have any statistics that prove we're less safe under Obama?
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Can you accept the facts? The numbers aren't manufactured. After two recessions during the Bush administration the work force is smaller than it was in 99.



In constant 2013 dollars, per capita income peaked in 2006.

The current per capita income ($28,829/yr) hasn`t been this low since 1998.

Bush`s lowest number ($29,173) in 2008 is higher than any of Obama`s as of 2013.

https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/inco...2013/p01AR.xls


As for the workforce shrinking, the participation rate declined 1.5% during Bush`s presidency.

It has declined 2.9% under Obama.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...9C03UuiHP6t2Ww



As for Bush...

How Did GW Bush Cause Our Current Economic Problems?

...we`ve been over this before.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Bush was an economic dynamo if you ignore that whole Great Recession thingy.

Up next: the greatness of the Hoover economy.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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Yeah, definitely less safe :





The economy was in complete freefall in 2008-2009. Not only is that not the case in 2015, we're closing in on full employment. Only in LimbaughLand have things gotten worse since the Great Failure left office.

The economy was in freefall because Clinton, on the advice of his financial working group (Summers, Raines, Rubin) deliberately left derivatives unregulated. Repealing Glass-Steagall didn`t help the situation either.

Clinton: I Was Wrong to Listen to Wrong Advice Against Regulating Derivatives* - ABC News


Once the initial crisis was over, why would the economy continue in freefall?

When has that ever happened?

The fact that this is the weakest recovery from recession in our history speaks to the failed policies of the Obama administration.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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Bush was an economic dynamo if you ignore that whole Great Recession thingy.

Up next: the greatness of the Hoover economy.

Take it up with Clinton.

His trade deals.

His repeal of Glass-Steagall.

His refusal to regulate derivatives.

Without Clinton, there is no financial crisis.
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