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Old 05-13-2015, 02:02 PM
 
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Everyone thinks that 'prohibition does not work,' but it ain't necessarily so.

Actually, Prohibition Was a Success - NYTimes.com
Oh my gosh. You call that success?

Are you a mobster? That is the only thing I can think of that would make you think those paltry numbers justified all the mob activities, death, and corruption which was funded by the black market created by prohibition.

Unbelievable..
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Religious conservatives want to keep it banned because the Bible commands sobriety. The fact that it causes intoxication makes it bad enough to warrant prohibition to them. Many of the same people would likely also support the return to alcohol prohibition if it were possible. Plenty on the right are either indifferent to marijuana legalization or support it. Problem is, as everything the GOP, its all about pandering to the evangelicals and they are passionately against legalization.
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Since there's a thread alleging many on the left are "enamoured" with smoking marijuana, I have to ask why so many on the right are apparently so smitten with 1936's Reefer Madness , have such fear of a silly little weed, and despite their claims of being for less government control/spending are perfectly willing to support law after law about the weed and spend who knows how many taxpayer $$$ trying to control it?
Conservatives are told by the prison industrial complex and their surrogates in the GOP that this harmless plant is evil and like docile sheep they believe what they are told
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:18 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Religious conservatives want to keep it banned because the Bible commands sobriety. The fact that it causes intoxication makes it bad enough to warrant prohibition to them. Many of the same people would likely also support the return to alcohol prohibition if it were possible. Plenty on the right are either indifferent to marijuana legalization or support it. Problem is, as everything the GOP, its all about pandering to the evangelicals and they are passionately against legalization.

Well... as a person of Faith the way I see it those who are against it, don't have to partake, now do they? When it comes to individual freedoms and liberties I'm not interested in pandering to those who seek to restrict others choices, because they feel "icky" about it.
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Old 05-13-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Hilarious-

There is not ONE randomized, double blinded, prospective study with adequate statistics that shows a MEDICAL BENEFIT to pot- not one.

The "studies" showing "medical benefit" are junk science.

How do I know? I actually do lectures on the subject (along with other medical/spine/pain subjects).
Only because the funds are not available because it remains illegal. There is proof it is effective against epileptic seizures.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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My body I should have the freedom to smoke a plant if i want
Fine as long as long as my life energy is not conscripted to pay for your health consequences via Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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Fine as long as long as my life energy is not conscripted to pay for your health consequences via Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.
The "life energy" you spend for prohibition is alright though?
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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Fine as long as long as my life energy is not conscripted to pay for your health consequences via Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.
Thats not a huge endorsement of legalization.

I support freedom, no ifs or buts
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The "life energy" you spend for prohibition is alright though?
Again, I am generally not in favor of prohibition. To each his own. However, if the taxpayer is required to pay for the health consequences of choices, the taxpayer is inevitably going to demand some control over those choices. Why is that so tough to comprehend?

It is probably not even a matter of what I or anyone else advocates. If we have a welfare state, a nanny state will inevitably follow. The great anti-tobacco crusade of around 2000 was expressly predicated on Medicare costs of tobacco use.
U.S. May Sue Big Tobacco For Care Costs - NYTimes.com
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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Why do so many on the left want another intoxicant legalized?

Alcohol comes from plants, too. Same stupid argument.

Now cue the same tired old "yeah but weed is not that bad". So how bad does it have to be?
As bad as PCP, honestly with the exception of ridiculous chemical drugs such as bath salts, pcp, etc. Nothing is really bad in moderation. LSD, mushrooms, and marijuana should especially be illegal since you aren't able to overdose on them (well I guess if you ate enough a bucket of mushrooms the size of your head you might, but that's just overeating in the first place).
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