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Old 05-14-2015, 02:02 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I'm worn out, cannot stand to breath the filth or look at the constant ciggiefilth covering the ground.
You and me both. In my building, we have gotten smokers in recent years, yet am told "there are hardly any smokers" - (Oh, that really makes me feel better). The air around the building stinks and I can rarely get fresh air anymore, unless it is windy or has rained. Recently, it has begun smelling like smoke in my unit, whether the windows have been closed or not (and is not from neighbors connected to my unit). I think it is from a crappy ventilation system and smokers driving down the driveway. (I sometimes spray air freshener, but I also have Asthma, so whether it is smoke or chemicals, I'm screwed). There is such a lack of consideration.

The other thing is, the stupid-asses throw their butts on the ground in the parking lot AND leave them around my car! Trying to find out why and who is doing this has been futile. I have asked if smokers can be given a specific place to deposit them, which apparently is "not possible". (Funny, I wonder what others like the Manager might feel if it was around their car). I am so disgusted and will move into a smoke-free place if only possible, which is difficult, having other prerequisites besides.

 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:27 AM
 
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That's my husband, who's sitting next to me coughing his head off! He spent some cold months in Chicago in the hospital, pushing his IV stand outside to smoke. Freezing cold didn't stop him. One day it will! I understand the addiction cause I had it for 35 years. I finally got my head on straight and see cigarettes for what they really are. KILLERS!!!

It comes down to mind over matter. You wouldn't do something stupid like drink gasoline so why would you inhale those noxious fumes? Sympathy? No, not when the harm is self inflicted!
With such a lovely wife I can't imagine why your husband no longer values his life.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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Smoking isn't healthy.

Even less healthy is getting worked up about smokers when they are smoking outside.

Reminds me of "The Princess and the Pea."
Some people love to complain. I have known a few non-smokers who go out of their way to be around smoking areas and then whine about people smoking. Like the smoking area at my work is behind the office and there are about three middle-aged women who each lunch out there and complain about the smoke. There is a smoke-free courtyard at my office with seating and it is inside the office, but these old crows actually leave the building and go around back and say things like, "Sure is a lot of smoke around here and it is making me dizzy."

It reminds me of those anti-gay crusaders who watch hundreds of hours of gay porn for "research" so they can tell everyone just how bad it is. Either they secretly like it or they are subconsciously masochistic and love inflicting unpleasantness on themselves.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:38 AM
 
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That's not easy to say when it's a friend or family member.

Smoking and over-eating are hard habits to break that will come back to haunt you - even if you think you've quit in time. I lost 2 dear friends their 50's last year to the effects of smoking and being overweight. The only time other's habits really bother me is when they impact me - running the smokey gauntlet to get into an office building or sitting beside an obese person in economy.
Yes it is. I told my brother his drinking would kill him. And it did.

Jack the tobacco tax to the stratosphere. Tobacco companies still make money sending their product overseas.

Currently, a pack of cigarettes in Nova Scotia is $15 a pack. I like that. Yet idiots pony up the money for it.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:41 AM
 
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Odd thing is that I have built, remodeled, done additions on many existing hospitals.

Before many, if not most, made themselves Smoke Free Campuses the overwhelming majority of those outside smoking were the Doctors, Nurses, Radiologists, etc..

This was not long ago.
I always found this to be the oddest thing. I could always tell when the doctor had a smoke break before seeing my kids, was the last time we saw that doctor.

Look at the ones pushing us to be health conscious, they're overweight......
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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You should be ashamed of yourself.

No one in our family smokes, and we wouldn't allow friends to smoke in our home if they were smokers, but anyone who gets cancer--smokers, the overweight (obesity can lead to cancer), those addicted to sugar (cancer loves sugar), the "promiscuous" (yes, that's a risk factor for certain cancers), etc. will continue to get my understanding, support and, yes, sympathy should they end up with that damn disease.

Did you serve in combat? I bet that "scruffy old dude" did, and I bet it was at a time when cigarettes were passed out to troops. Everyone is not strong enough to kick their habits, whether it's smoking, drinking, or even doing drugs.

You, sir, are rude, as evidenced by your comment to that man. The fact that he was smoking where he shouldn't have been smoking isn't even the point. Do what the rest of us do when we encounter that, act like an adult, and suck it up.

I guess it takes all kinds.
This is how my step-dad got started, he didn't smoke until he was drafted......

He had emphysema by the age of 50, very little medical issues other than hard time breathing. He always had his own insurance, at the age of 88 he was cleared of emphysema and died at 92 in his sleep.

People tend to forget some of us have addictive personalities and addictions are never easy to give up.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Smokers already pay a very hefty tax on every pack of cigarettes.

Maybe we should put the same hefty tax on fast food and sodas - seems they cause as many health issues as smoking.

And I'm a non smoker by the way.
Maybe you were not serious, but I actually like the idea of a hefty tax on ANYTHING that has been proven beyond doubt to cause serious disease or health problems.

Some health issues cannot be prevented, but some can.

And, yes, i do acknowledge that not all lung disease is related to smoking, and that MAYBE it can even be argued that smokers don't cost taxpayers any more money than non-smokers, but I would always like to ask smokers whose habit interferes with my well-being and enjoyment of life the following question --

How does my choice to not smoke interfere with YOUR well-being and enjoyment of life?

Yes, smokers are often forced to endure disgusted looks, anti-smoking ads and rants from non-smokers, and cold or unpleasant weather in order to partake of their habit, but these annoyances are caused by the anti-smoking climate in general, but they are not caused by non-smokers personally (except for our rants, which of course you are free to respond to).
 
Old 05-14-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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I would love to see a $5 tax placed on cigarette on top of what they already cost. I applaud employers that refuse to hire smokers because of insurance costs. If people want to smoke cigarettes then fine, but treat their health insurance like auto insurance where its based on an individual instead of everyone's health insurance costs going up to pay for a few.

For those that get lung cancer from smoking, you will never get my sympathy
What a wonderful human being you are!

How about a tax on marijuana?

Far less smokers today then there was just 50 years ago when we had the Marlboro Man on television, medical doctors were near unanimous Camel Cigarettes were best between house calls (Google it) and the US Army did all they could to encourage smoking by the troops going so far as to stuff small five cigarette packages in every C Ration.

I quit years ago but it was the US Army that got me hooked on cigarettes... in the 1960's it was actually encouraged and we'd get free cartons... it was tobacco companies doing the patriotic thing for the troops.

But I quit years ago but many couldn't.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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Maybe you were not serious, but I actually like the idea of a hefty tax on ANYTHING that has been proven beyond doubt to cause serious disease or health problems.

Some health issues cannot be prevented, but some can.

And, yes, i do acknowledge that not all lung disease is related to smoking, and that MAYBE it can even be argued that smokers don't cost taxpayers any more money than non-smokers, but I would always like to ask smokers whose habit interferes with my well-being and enjoyment of life the following question --

How does my choice to not smoke interfere with YOUR well-being and enjoyment of life?

Yes, smokers are often forced to endure disgusted looks, anti-smoking ads and rants from non-smokers, and cold or unpleasant weather in order to partake of their habit, but these annoyances are caused by the anti-smoking climate in general, but they are not caused by non-smokers personally (except for our rants, which of course you are free to respond to).
If I wanted to open a bar called Smokey Frank's that caters exclusively to smokers, I cannot do that by law. THAT is an interference with my well-being and enjoyment of life.

And it is a body rights issue for me. I believe that if you have ANY right in the world, that you have the right to your own flesh and that means doing things that are potentially unhealthy. That's right. Smoke, drink, do drugs, get a tattoo, get a piercing, eat excessively, eat healthy, work out, laze around the couch, be celibate, have sex with hundreds of people, get pregnant, get an abortion, get sterilized, get a sex change, get plastic surgery, whatever. Your flesh is your own and whenever some busybody tries to screw with it; I take offense.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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In the old days I could go to my favorite watering hole, have a shot and a beer, and a cigarette. Now I just stay home. Lord, save me from the health nazis.
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