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Old 05-13-2015, 04:41 PM
 
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How long should we give the next President to clean up the mess this president has left?
Not a bad question. Probably forever.

I can see only a few things that *really* matter.

. Closing the border
. A Fed chairman along the lines of Volcker to shut down the credit tap
. Withdrawal from unprofitable wars
. Turning away from construction of the national surveillance state

The rest of it, the ACA, race issues, educational issues, etc. etc. are in a second tier of problems.

The next President, regardless of party, will do none of these things.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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A record would indicate that the feat has never been reached before, that is untrue, there for you either dont know the defintion of the word or are purposefully lying.

Further more, the participation rate has been dropping for 15 years.

explain how that is his fault , then we can discuss it.

He isnt the divisive person, its those out there who want to claim any discussion on race is just black people playing the race card.



Thats opinion
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by the logic of those who dont understand free markets, but trumpet them, the first half is good thing and should have stopped the second from happening.



Republicans always distrust government left when one of your own is in charge, so thats an easy question to ask. When ever someone with an R gets in the Oval.



it was your party who chose never to work with the President, not the other way around.



How much of that debt is actually attributed to him, calculate that and then lets talk.
The fact that you are completely wrong on every one of your statements, tells us exactly why you vote democrat, you enjoy seeing the country being destroyed, or maybe you just don't understand what's going on.
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Old 05-13-2015, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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History is a guide. Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 with unemployment, high interest rates (18 pct 30 year mortgages), inflation, and general "malaise" as Pres. Carter put it.

By 1984 the economy had rebounded, and Reagan was re-elected in a landslide, winning 49 states. Walter Mondale won his home state of Minnesota, plus Washington DC, which naturally will never vote for limited federal government.

The answer is that it does not take very long.

Ah those were the days, the biggest threat to the economy was high interest rates. The largest threat to our defense was Grenada, Libya and Nicaragua. No global competition.

One of the largest recessions in our history, massive deficits from the prior president, and inextricably tied to wars in 2 countries.

Obama would take Reagans problems hands down.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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History is a guide. Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 with unemployment, high interest rates (18 pct 30 year mortgages), inflation, and general "malaise" as Pres. Carter put it.

By 1984 the economy had rebounded, and Reagan was re-elected in a landslide, winning 49 states. Walter Mondale won his home state of Minnesota, plus Washington DC, which naturally will never vote for limited federal government.

The answer is that it does not take very long.
Obama ain't Carter and there.isn't a single Republican on the planet as charismatic as Reagan.

And even if there was Reagan on deck, that'd be the last thing this country needs.
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The fact that you are completely wrong on every one of your statements, tells us exactly why you vote democrat, you enjoy seeing the country being destroyed, or maybe you just don't understand what's going on.
the amount of hyperbole in your post is sickening, so lets skip all that BS.


Your claim is that everything I said was wrong, prove it.
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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Obama ain't Carter and there.isn't a single Republican on the planet as charismatic as Reagan.

And even if there was Reagan on deck, that'd be the last thing this country needs.

You're right, Obama isn't Carter -- he's worse. More inept than Carter, more corrupt than Nixon, that's a better definition of Obama.

Unfortunately, those of us who have been paying attention realize that both parties are different sides of the same corrupt coin. The question isn't "how long will it take to clean up Obama's mess?", but rather "Which party is the lesser of two evils?"
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You're right, Obama isn't Carter -- he's worse. More inept than Carter, more corrupt than Nixon, that's a better definition of Obama.
ill never understand why people like you beleive that, but you have a right to your opinion.

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Unfortunately, those of us who have been paying attention realize that both parties are different sides of the same corrupt coin. The question isn't "how long will it take to clean up Obama's mess?", but rather "Which party is the lesser of two evils?"
The lesser of 2 evils argument still means a win for Democrats, the things people hate most about Obama seem to be his republican leanings, the whole"outbushing Bush" thing.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:18 PM
 
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2 consecutive terms with a Republican President and republican controlled House & Senate the whole time.
So you are saying it would never happen????

Mick
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Sorry to disagree with you, but no President, can look you in the eye as this President has and lie so easy, what the hell is one more lie. Lie after lie, which we all come to expect from Obama.

Please do not try and speculate what you think some people will do or how they think because you are not in their head~

This President, does nothing but lie, come on now, even my good black friends admit this too me, they can admit it, because they can see it too.

Oh excuse me, Clinton, did not play footsie under the table with a said intern: did he.

John Edwards, did not cheat while his wife was dying! right. And no when others lie it is not ok either, just this President, lies all the time, lie after lie. Don't have to agree with me, and no I definitely do not agree with you

Do not try and guess what you think white people think, unless your in their head.
Oh I am sure Romney could put on his white guy smile and you would believe anything that came out of his lying teeth.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How long should we give the next President to clean up the mess this president has left?

-Record low labor force rate
-wage stagnation
-racially charged climate, him being among the most racially divisive presidents ever
-the "Affordable" Care Act
-record high income and wealth inequality
-distrust in government
-the most divided political environment since the civil war
-$8 Trillion in additional debt to the overall national debt, almost more than all presidents combined
Do you want a "hankie" as you listen to Rush & Faux Nooze?

OBAMA has accomplished:

#1: Ended the WARS in Afghanistan & Iraq that President Cheney...oops President Bush created!
#2: Killed Bin Laden while Dubya was looking for him under a desk
#3: Passed the "Affordable Health Care" act which Insured Millions of Americans that were Un-Insured
#4: Passed the "Lilly Ledbetter Act" as his first bill ensuring Equal Pay for Women
#5: Gasoline at record lows ( So much for a Socialist Dictator)
#6: Record Wall Street market
#7: Hasn't launched any Wars
#8: Always confusing Republicans

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