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Old 05-14-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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My comment that Kudlow is a shill stands for itself and does not need to be tired to any article - even though yes, I read it. However, just because other people claim something does not make it true. People have been spewing this "job creator" bs for years and there are plenty of others that dispute it as fact.

The economy roared along with much higher tax rates on unearned income than we have now, and people who are looking to keep the rates low are just looking out for their self interest.
I like low tax rates. Millions of separate and different entities, including people and businesses looking after their own self-interests, are what help create a vibrant economy.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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We the consumers are the real job creators. You take away our disposable income, you get a lukewarm demand for goods and services. This leads to stagnant revenue and job growth for businesses. You stuff our nation's wealth into the pockets of the 1% (a GOP policy) you get a stalled economy.

Trickle down economics = failure
Oh here we go again and round and round we go. It's both!

Someone invests in providing a product or service and if it's a product or service people want customers willingly hand over their money to get it. Businesses can't be like government and provide crappy services and they go out of business. You.. provide companies a service and are paid what the service you provide will bear in the market.

Just like it's up to the business to provide a service or product people are willing to pay for, it's up to you to offer the skills employers are willing to pay for. No one is going to pay someone with burger flipper skills a rocket scientist wage. Both work hand in hand, it's not one or the other.

Now it's time for you to grow up. Despite what liberal politicians want you to believe, business are not social institutions.

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Old 05-14-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: SC
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You are a poor mans shill who only cares about your pocket.
Based on what?
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: SC
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I like low tax rates. Millions of separate and different entities, including people and businesses looking after their own self-interests, are what help create a vibrant economy.
I like low rates to, but not at the expense of greater society.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I like low rates to, but not at the expense of greater society.
The money doesn't go to the greater society, it goes to increase the power of government.

When politics are used to allocate resources, the resources all end up being allocated to politics. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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I like low rates to, but not at the expense of greater society.
Greater society gets plenty. If push comes to shove for more social spending, let's create and not tax for more.

http://www.amazon.com/Myths-that-Hol.../dp/098398851X
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I find it hilarious that salaried workers have their taxes withheld with every paycheck then have to file for a refund to get their money back the following year while the wealthy only pay taxes every Quarter based on their "estimated" Income.
The wealthy set up the rules not some "joe schmoe" working at Taco Bell!
Anyone who is self employed pays taxes on a quarterly basis. It isn't just the wealthy. For those that are salaried or hourly, if you have to file for a refund you're loaning the government your money interest free for a year. Not quite the best financial decision you can make.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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The money doesn't go to the greater society, it goes to increase the power of government.

When politics are used to allocate resources, the resources all end up being allocated to politics. - P.J. O'Rourke
Actually much of it goes to our greater society. Then that money gets spent, local businesses see improvements and eventually that money moves up to the rich. Where for good or bad they have better levers on Gov't.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:12 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Actually much of it goes to our greater society. Then that money gets spent, local businesses see improvements and eventually that money moves up to the rich. Where for good or bad they have better levers on Gov't.
We would be lucky if half actually benefits the greater good.

Leaving money in the pocket of individuals does all those things you think happens without the government taking a huge cut.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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The money doesn't go to the greater society, it goes to increase the power of corporations.

When corporations are used to allocate resources, the resources all end up being allocated to corporations -Someone more aware than P.J. O’Rourke
That looks better. In a continuing era of outsourced jobs, jobs eliminated by automation, declining salaries for workers, increasing salaries for executives, and environmental degradation, the lack of wisdom from the Right on the economy is breathtaking. As fear-based as most Conservatives are, they oddlly give a free pass to the real villians in their lives.
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