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No, I'm saying late term the fetus is viable and can be delivered.
At 20-23 weeks a fetus is not viable. If a woman finds out she has cancer and needs to undergo treatment she can either choose to undergo treatment while pregnant and potentially cause harm or death to the fetus or she can have a late term abortion after 20 weeks. And any delivery for a woman is serious. Contrary to what many know, maternal mortality is still an issue in this country.
No doctors in the US will deliver and offer life sustaining treatment to a 20 week old fetus. I know someone who desperately wanted a 22 week 3 day old fetus to be born and she had many weeks of bed rest due to a health condition that could potentially take her life, but she wanted the baby and unfortunately the measures taken to keep her pregnant to 24 weeks did not work and the hospital did not provide treatment to the baby born at 22 weeks 3 days due to the baby not being viable. The baby died within an hour of being born.
Many of you don't seem to realize that hospitals are money making machines. If a woman and her husband face these sorts of medical decisions an abortion is usually provided as a option and many times is the preferred option based on suffering of either the child or mother upon birth or due to cost. Hospitals aren't going to waste money on a non-viable extremely premature infant. It can cost in the millions of dollars to keep a baby alive born at 24 weeks. They have to stay in the hospital in most cases for 3-4 months.
Also sepsis and infections are issues that can cause a woman to die without a late term abortion. There was a pretty high profile case in Ireland a few years ago Woman Dies in Galway After Being Denied an Abortion.
FWIW, the friend I mentioned above almost died of the same thing. She desperately wanted the baby though and took extreme risks to try to get to viability. She almost died but she fainted and her husband, who didn't want her to die, made the choice for them to take the baby via c-section to save her life. She was ill for over a month afterwards recovering from infection.
ETA: I am a member of a mothering support group and we have 3-4 mothers who have had to have late term abortions and the one mentioned above had this same scenario happen twice. This is being shared to reiterate that abortion is not a political issue. It is a personal thing between a woman, her partner, and her medical providers. Late term abortions are practically always for medical reasons and there are still ways for a pregnancy to potentially take the life of a mother. Especially mothers who had specific illnesses prior to pregnancy or due to infection/sepcis as well.
Nobody said it was a guarantee that any baby survives. What I said was there was no case where they must be killed.
If the doctor determines the fetus is not viable, and abortion is the safest course for the woman, then a woman is entitled to make that choice. When woman have already been pregnant for six months, it's because they chose earlier in the pregnancy not to end the pregnancy. Something has to change drastically to make them decide to end the pregnancy. And I respect women to be able to make these decisions.
At 20-23 weeks a fetus is not viable. If a woman finds out she has cancer and needs to undergo treatment she can either choose to undergo treatment while pregnant and potentially cause harm or death to the fetus or she can have a late term abortion after 20 weeks. And any delivery for a woman is serious. Contrary to what many know, maternal mortality is still an issue in this country.
There has been a wide range of discussions here. No one has taken any actions that would ban abortions at 20 weeks and when they actually do, it's then discuss-able. I've explained why this law does absolutely nothing.
If the doctor determines the fetus is not viable, and abortion is the safest course for the woman, then a woman is entitled to make that choice. When woman have already been pregnant for six months, it's because they chose earlier in the pregnancy not to end the pregnancy. Something has to change drastically to make them decide to end the pregnancy. And I respect women to be able to make these decisions.
There is no medical reason why the fetus must be killed. Yes, legally they can just kill it.
There has been a wide range of discussions here. No one has taken any actions that would ban abortions at 20 weeks and when they actually do, it's then discuss-able. I've explained why this law does absolutely nothing.
Certainly some states have taken actions to ban abortions at 20 weeks and even earlier.
There is no medical reason why the fetus must be killed. Yes, legally they can just kill it.
If a doctor recommends terminating the pregnancy for the sake of the woman's life or health, the presumption would be that there is a medical reason. If the fetus is not viable, and the pregnancy is terminated, then a non-viable fetus is killed.
If a doctor recommends terminating the pregnancy for the sake of the woman's life or health, the presumption would be that there is a medical reason.
Nope. Doe v Bolton ruled that a "health" exemption must include any reason. "I no longer want to be a mother" is a legit health exemption and why this law does nothing. It's why the Hyde Amendment excluded "health" and only gave the life exemption.
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If the fetus is not viable, and the pregnancy is terminated, then a non-viable fetus is killed.
I never argued they don't kill it. I said they do not have to.
Nope. Doe v Bolton ruled that a "health" exemption must include any reason. "I no longer want to be a mother" is a legit health exemption and why this law does nothing. It's why the Hyde Amendment excluded "health" and only gave the life exemption.
I never argued they don't kill it. I said they do not have to.
If the doctor recommends, presumably the doctor's recommendation is based on HEALTH reasons.
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