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Old 05-14-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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It doesn't matter who recognizes Palestine as currently it isn't a state or country.
The only thing holding it back is the vote of the United States on the Security Council.
If Obama says go, it's a go.
136 Nations Recognize A Palestinian State
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Good job Pope Francis. Anything that pisses off Zionists and American neocons is good by me.
Hah-kind of my sentiment.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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Good job Pope Francis. Anything that pisses off Zionists and American neocons is good by me.
Believe me Obama secretly agrees with Palestine and wants to recognize it but scared of Republicans/Pro-Israel and Zionist lobby.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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No Catholic is required to accept a single one of Pope Francis's insane economic or political views.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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No Catholic is required to accept a single one of Pope Francis's insane economic or political views.
Yet none of Francis' economic or political views falls out of the historic teaching of the Catholic Church. Distributism is the guiding economic theory of the RCC and goes back to the teachings of Pope Leo XIII. It only sounds "insane" to American capitalists who believe that any theory that seeks limits on human consumption or does not kowtow to Wall St. is "communism" or "socialism." I'm not a Catholic and not much of a Francis fan but not a single thing he's said economically is out of the realm of Catholic teaching.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Yet none of Francis' economic or political views falls out of the historic teaching of the Catholic Church. Distributism is the guiding economic theory of the RCC and goes back to the teachings of Pope Leo XIII. It only sounds "insane" to American capitalists who believe that any theory that seeks limits on human consumption or does not kowtow to Wall St. is "communism" or "socialism." I'm not a Catholic and not much of a Francis fan but not a single thing he's said economically is out of the realm of Catholic teaching.
Distributism isn't the european style social democracy that Francis espouses. FYI, I've studied Rerum Novarum.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Distributism isn't the european style social democracy that Francis espouses. FYI, I've studied Rerum Novarum.
Distributism is closer to European social democracy than American capitalism.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Both nations have a right to exist. The zionists and Hamas are both equally unfit to lead and should be removed from officers they hold.


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Guess someone thought he could speak for an entire world......how about putting it up for a vote.

Wonder if the Pope plans to give up land where the Vatican sits? One must have a government to establish a state, is Hamas the government?
The Vatican is .17 square miles in size. He has nothing to give.

And how is the Pope speaking for the entire world? He's barely speaking for all Catholics, since he's not actually requiring anyone to agree with him.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Distributism is closer to European social democracy than American capitalism.
No it's not.
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Old 05-14-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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The only thing holding it back is the vote of the United States on the Security Council.
If Obama says go, it's a go.
136 Nations Recognize A Palestinian State
No Obama doesn't have to commit the USA to voting yes on Palestinian Statehood. All he has to do is (1) tell the UN Representative of the USA to abstain from voting on the Security Council Resolution, (2) tell the US Representative to vote present or (3) Just not show up at the Security Council session where the resolution would come up for a vote. Do any of the above and Palestinian statehood would be a go. This procedure could also be good when it comes time to lift UN sanctions against Iran and the GOP Congress can do nothing to stop it.
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