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Old 05-14-2015, 07:22 PM
 
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Obama refused to get a status of forces agreement done. Obama wanted out. Obama wanted chaos.
Obama did what the U.S. should have done, which is leave. If he will ever do it fully the U.S. will be better for it. Going to Iraq in 2003 was a idiotic move, and a gift to the Jihad that keeps on giving.

Let them fight each other, as U.S. intervention in the Middle East has only produced: tyranny, chaos, and motivating the Jihad to attack the U.S.

 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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By congress you really mean the people. It's the American people who should be responsible.
Agree, unfortunately We the People have been negligent as well.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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Obama wanted support from the young progressive crowd who was against being in Iraq. Don't make **** up to try and turn Obama into some secret conquerer. It was politics, not some evil agenda.
Which would make him a very poor leader. One doesnt do whats politically popular and ignore the consequences which would result.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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Obama did what the U.S. should have done, which is leave. If he will ever do it fully the U.S. will be better for it. Going to Iraq in 2003 was a idiotic move, and a gift to the Jihad that keeps on giving.

Let them fight each other, as U.S. intervention in the Middle East has only produced: tyranny, chaos, and motivating the Jihad to attack the U.S.
Yes because they were just killing one another, and not at all bothering us..

Americans are idiots, with their short memories..
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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None sense; such radical Muslims have been around since before WWII during which they supported Hitler. Just as oceans protected us from such people ;the world has become much smaller. Jehad and beheading others isn't something new .
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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Yes because they were just killing one another, and not at all bothering us..

Americans are idiots, with their short memories..
The Jihad is attacking the U.S. due to its foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East, whether it is supporting dictators, intervening in conflicts that the U.S. has no interest or need to be involved in, or U.S. foreign policy with Israel (Especially with the Israel/Palestine conflict).

Iraq was never a threat to the U.S. under Saddam. Bush foolishly invaded, then tried to nation build there. He foolishly thought that a democratic inclusive government would work in Iraq, when Iraq has three factions that hate each other. Bush's invasion of Iraq is a gift that keeps on giving to the Jihad.

Time to leave the Middle East, and stop needlessly intervening there. The U.S. needs to recognize the consequences of its foreign policy.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The Jihad is attacking the U.S. due to its foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East, whether it is supporting dictators, intervening in conflicts that the U.S. has no interest or need to be involved in, or U.S. foreign policy with Israel (Especially with the Israel/Palestine conflict).

Iraq was never a threat to the U.S. under Saddam. Bush foolishly invaded, then tried to nation build there. He foolishly thought that a democratic inclusive government would work in Iraq, when Iraq has three factions that hate each other. Bush's invasion of Iraq is a gift that keeps on giving to the Jihad.

Time to leave the Middle East, and stop needlessly intervening there. The U.S. needs to recognize the consequences of its foreign policy.
Just curious...what is your opinion on the bombing raids we are currently conducting in Iraq. Should we drop that effort too?
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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I'm actually surprised on how many missteps the guy is making.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Which would make him a very poor leader. One doesnt do whats politically popular and ignore the consequences which would result.
They all do it. Not everything they do follows this pattern though, so there's the bright side to this media/fear driven system of governance we see ourselves in.. or at least some of see ourselves in. Some people still think they're vote matters.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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The Jihad is attacking the U.S. due to its foreign policy of intervention in the Middle East, whether it is supporting dictators, intervening in conflicts that the U.S. has no interest or need to be involved in, or U.S. foreign policy with Israel (Especially with the Israel/Palestine conflict).

Iraq was never a threat to the U.S. under Saddam. Bush foolishly invaded, then tried to nation build there. He foolishly thought that a democratic inclusive government would work in Iraq, when Iraq has three factions that hate each other. Bush's invasion of Iraq is a gift that keeps on giving to the Jihad.

Time to leave the Middle East, and stop needlessly intervening there. The U.S. needs to recognize the consequences of its foreign policy.
So the 911 commission report which says there were terrorists camps inside of Iraq, (outside of Baghdad), was faulty.

Exactly what information do you have that they didnt have?
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