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Old 05-14-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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Imagine if after that Truman had pulled out.

well we can be sure that there is no such thing as Americans learning either the terrible lesion of WW1, nor learning the great lesson of the Marshall Plan in the wake of WW2.

Certainly not so long as democrats know they can play on the American public and turn on what was sound policy that could have changed the dynamic of the middle east if we stuck it out to raise up a powerful freedom loving Iraqi nation.

Liberalism has a body count. Every person dying in Iraq today is part of that body count.

 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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Islamic fundamentalism wasn't an issue in Iraq before we invaded. Sorry...that's a fact.

Don't blame islamists...blame those folks who destabilized the region.
right. Saddam Insane was killing 50,000 people a year and he was not relying on islam to do it.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:55 PM
 
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burdell, I didn't conveniently overlook anything.


in fact there is a cost to having lost that war as well. the killing fields of Cambodia are a direct result of Americas panty waste babyboomers forcing America to lose that war. Further millions died in Vietnam that did not need to die had we fought to win there.

I am more than happy to talk about the only American generation to fail the test of history if you want to do that. cowards with no desire to stand up to evil cost the world dearly.
The Babyboomer panty waisters didn't plan Vietnam and are in no way responsible for the failed execution of that war.

The Vietcong and NVA are the reasons we lost Vietnam. It's called fighting a superior enemy.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:56 PM
 
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right. Saddam Insane was killing 50,000 people a year and he was not relying on islam to do it.
What's that got to do with the United States?
 
Old 05-14-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Who asked the dem held congress to go to war?
President Bush.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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well we can be sure that there is no such thing as Americans learning either the terrible lesion of WW1, nor learning the great lesson of the Marshall Plan in the wake of WW2.

Certainly not so long as democrats know they can play on the American public and turn on what was sound policy that could have changed the dynamic of the middle east if we stuck it out to raise up a powerful freedom loving Iraqi nation.

Liberalism has a body count. Every person dying in Iraq today is part of that body count.
I know...if we'd just "stuck it out" (while you chill in your safe American living room).

It's always "ONE LAST HEAVE with you conservatives.

But you don't do the heaving.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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The Babyboomer panty waisters didn't plan Vietnam and are in no way responsible for the failed execution of that war.

The Vietcong and NVA are the reasons we lost Vietnam. It's called fighting a superior enemy.
wrong. the panty waisters forced the loss. period. end of story. you are wrong. history has spoken.

I have two uncles who are babyboomers and served in Vietnam. they are great men who sacrificed a lot. they were and are not the cowards their generation is so full of. Not all were idiot spoiled cowards but enough were to cause America to walk away.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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which is stupid because Barak Obama pulled out of Iraq.

Barak Obama ACTUALLY CREATED ISIS
It was a team effort. Buch invaded Iraq, which was the most colossally stupid thing Bush did on a long list of stupid things he did, and Obama pulled out, which was a stupid move because Iraq had been in a perpetual state of instability ever since Saddam had been in power.

Say what you will about Saddam, he was good leader. Iraq had been a moderate nation during his rule and he was well liked by his people, except for a minority of people who did not like him; but that minority ended up supporting or becoming ISIS. Saddam was protecting the rest of the world. His motives may have been unconventional and he refused to adopt the US dollar (which is the only reason we invaded; don't fool yourself into thinking it was a moral crusade), but he was keeping Iraq stable and the Middle East safe.

The vast majority of our military action so far in the 21 century has been nothing but foolish. I wouldn't place ALL of the blame on the two executive powers, since they do have to listen to advisors and such, but all the same, everything our military did in Iraq was bad. Since we like to think in terms of good and evil, we were the evil. We did this to the Middle East. We made the world worse than it was before.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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I know...if we'd just "stuck it out" (while you chill in your safe American living room).

It's always "ONE LAST HEAVE with you conservatives.

But you don't do the heaving.
...in fact at the end of WW2. we did "stick it out.... both in Europe and Japan. kinda worked out well.


I served in Desert Storm. been there done that got the medal buddy. I ask nothing I have not proven I am willing to do myself.
 
Old 05-14-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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This is the 100% truth. I have written as much repeatedly.

Before the war in Iraq, there was a debate about the effects of destroying Iraq.

The opponents against invading Iraq and the supporters of the invasion made some predictions about the state of the world after we destroyed Iraq.

The opponents of the war predicted that Iraq would sink into civil war or sectarian violence and we wouldn't be able to control it. That prediction was right.

The opponents of the war predicted that Iran would gain a lot of power as a result of the invasion of Iraq. That prediction was right.

The opponents of the war predicted that you would destabilize the Middle East in particular that area of the Middle East. That prediction was right.

The opponents of the war predicted that we would draw a bunch of radical elements into Iraq, which would spawn all kinds of terrorist groups in Iraq where none existed. That prediction was right.


Those who cheered for us to destroy Iraq, conservatives were wrong about everything. I mean wrong about everything they predicted. Yet, they are still running their fat mouths about the Middle East after being disastrously wrong and Yes the invasion in Iraq did lead directly to the creation of Isil.

Yet conservatives have learned nothing after being so wrong about everything in Iraq.
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