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View Poll Results: Which is most likely in the Amtrak Crash? (multiple choice poll)
(Engineer) "does" remember what happened but is saying he doesn't likely to escape trouble... 51 52.04%
(Engineer) is working with ISIS and did this deliberately 4 4.08%
(Engineer) is mentally ill and did this and has no recollection 5 5.10%
This was purely an accident at 106 miles an hour... 11 11.22%
This was an ill-trained Engineer and he did not understand a curve was coming up 9 9.18%
The train malfunctioned and the Engineer could not pull out of the failure 9 9.18%
Amtrak is safe and crashes are rare..Ride the Rails.. 39 39.80%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-16-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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You mean it was an act of God?


(sorry, couldn't help it)
The God Of The Machine.

No apology.
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Old 05-16-2015, 05:02 PM
 
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Maybe the reports are true and some mental defectives in Philly are getting their kicks throwing things at trains now. It could possibly have distracted him leading him to abandon the controls at a critical time. That's a huge difference over him not being at the controls goofing off or being intentionally negligent and just making a serious error but one caused by special circumstances. That could mean the difference between jail and just being fired.
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:01 PM
 
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Maybe the reports are true and some mental defectives in Philly are getting their kicks throwing things at trains now. It could possibly have distracted him leading him to abandon the controls at a critical time. That's a huge difference over him not being at the controls goofing off or being intentionally negligent and just making a serious error but one caused by special circumstances. That could mean the difference between jail and just being fired.
O.K but what explains the train speeding up to over double the rated speed for the corner in the two or three minutes prior to arriving at the corner? A rock thrown from an over pass distracted him into cracking open the throttle to max?
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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And charge the GOP-controlled congress with criminal negligence for defunding Amtrak despite record breaking ridership levels. Modern safety features like positive train control prevents disasters caused by human error.
To not have it on a very busy train corridor is mind-numbingly stupid if not criminally negligent.

How Congress Failed to Stop the Fatal Amtrak Crash - CityLab
There's liberal logic at work. It's the GOP's fault the driver screwed, doubled the speed and crashed the train, not the drivers fault or Amtraks. How about we charge the union who hired the driver with criminal negligence for having such and incompetent person running the train?
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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O.K but what explains the train speeding up to over double the rated speed for the corner in the two or three minutes prior to arriving at the corner? A rock thrown from an over pass distracted him into cracking open the throttle to max?
If he had just increased the throttle before being hit, the throttle would have stayed put. Unlike subway and light rail trains which make very frequent starts and stops, the throttle in every modern locomotive does not have to be held down to maintain a power setting.
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There's liberal logic at work. It's the GOP's fault the driver screwed, doubled the speed and crashed the train, not the drivers fault or Amtraks. How about we charge the union who hired the driver with criminal negligence for having such and incompetent person running the train?
No, it's the GOP's fault Amtrak didn't have enough money to deploy the signaling technology, that likely would have prevented this crash, sooner.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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O.K but what explains the train speeding up to over double the rated speed for the corner in the two or three minutes prior to arriving at the corner? A rock thrown from an over pass distracted him into cracking open the throttle to max?
I'm no train expert but apparently the throttle (if that is what they call it) operates like a motorboat, it has a set position. The engineer sits to the right and if I understand correctly the lever is to his left, it would be right in the way if he were examining damage to the window on the left. Another possibility is perhaps he was startled and inadvertently bumped it forward without realizing it... maybe panicked and pushed it faster instead of slower. Could be a lot of things.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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If he had just increased the throttle before being hit, the throttle would have stayed put. Unlike subway and light rail trains which make very frequent starts and stops, the throttle in every modern locomotive does not have to be held down to maintain a power setting.

No, it's the GOP's fault Amtrak didn't have enough money to deploy the signaling technology, that likely would have prevented this crash, sooner.



If the FCC ever gets off of their butts and assigns frequencies for the already installed equipment they will become operative.

Under who's watch did the FCC not take care of this?
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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No, it's the GOP's fault Amtrak didn't have enough money to deploy the signaling technology, that likely would have prevented this crash, sooner.
When was the last time you advocated for higher fares?

The reason this train crashed was because it was going twice the speed limit for this curve. Let me ask you something, you still going to blame it on funding if it's found out it was thrown object or even shot at by some low life scum getting their kicks? Apparently there was two other trains that were hit so at this point this is the likely scenario.
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Old 05-17-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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A millennial at the controls and a smart phone. I have a bad feeling about this investigation.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:50 AM
 
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I had earlier stated the head end was diesel-electric. I stand corrected. That line is electrified. Having never set foot in an electric locomotive, I can't comment what was installed in the cab.
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