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Old 05-17-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Oregon is an open carry state.
Both men are legally carrying their AR-15s in public.
Can you guess what happens next?
This kind of experiment would make sense only if it was the same cop. Two different cops don't' necessarily react the same way.

 
Old 05-17-2015, 11:25 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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This kind of experiment would make sense only if the cop was the same one. Two different cops don't' necessarily react the same way.
But they are indeed taught to react the same way, and the fact that they didnt is the problem. One of these officers was wrong in their assessment of the situation.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Blacks commit 12 times more murders per capita than whites....prudent to be 12 times more cautious.
No one in their right mind would have more fear of a black guy carrying an AR-15 openly than they would a white guy carrying one openly.

The black murder rate doesn't even work in this situation. The black guy committing all that crime doesn't have the profile of a person walking around carrying a weapon openly. The typical black criminal is a drug dealer, robber, drug related murderer, or a murderer involved in some vendetta.

Sorry...but a white guy openly carrying an AR-15 is about the scariest sight I can think of.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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LOL! Which is it leftists? Do you support the 2nd Amendment or not? Race shouldn't be the issue. The cop was wrong, period.
You're missing the point entirely. The white guy was just asked some questions. The black guy was asked to lay on the ground. Two very different situations, yet both started the same. A guy walking around with a gun.

And I'm a liberal and fully support the 2nd amendment. I find it stupid when people walk around with a gun just to walk around with a gun, but I wouldn't make it illegal. Just call it what it is.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But they are indeed taught to react the same way, and the fact that they didnt is the problem. One of these officers was wrong in their assessment of the situation.
That does not mean it is a race issue. The 1st cop might have treated both individuals the same way. Likewise, the 2nd cop might have arrested the white guy too.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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Blacks commit 12 times more murders per capita than whites....prudent to be 12 times more cautious.
I don't care. I care about the rights of the individual. Period.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Either are likely to be shot dead by the police.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 01:51 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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That does not mean it is a race issue. The 1st cop might have treated both individuals the same way. Likewise, the 2nd cop might have arrested the white guy too.
Both of our arguments are possible, but the fact remains that the black guy was legally carrying the weapon and was arrested.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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Both of our arguments are possible, but the fact remains that the black guy was legally carrying the weapon and was arrested.
It also shows a person's rights were being violated.
 
Old 05-17-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Both of our arguments are possible, but the fact remains that the black guy was legally carrying the weapon and was arrested.
And it is pure speculation to say it happened because he was black. We do not know how many takes the film makes made until they got what they wanted. We dont even know if the two events happened in the same city. Open carry is NOT allowed in every city/town in Oregon. Why were the police cars different colors in the two tests? I'll bet they were not in the came city.
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