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Old 05-19-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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More from the "Incredibly Stupid or Willfully Ignorant crowd"™

You're disappointed that Obama couldn't do something that the 40 some-odd [white] presidents over the preceding 200+ years couldn't do, huh? Color me shocked. I mean, sure, he only walked in to the 2nd worst economic collapse in this country's history...with two unpopular wars and a disgruntled populace to contend with. And sure, he may have been the only president in history that had to produce two copies of his birth certificate in order to try and quell questions of whether he was even qualified to BE president (hint: it didn't work...there's still people questioning his citizenship). Yeah, I guess I can see why you would be disappointed that he couldn't just wave a wand, and make racist scurry back into their hidy holes.

In point of fact, Obama did nothing to hinder race relations but get elected. That was enough to shine a light on the racist roaches of society in order for it to appear that what many ignored as 'not a problem', was, in fact, still a problem.

As an aside...you'll probably get a kick out of this, lol: You remember the republican counter plan to Hillary's health care proposal in the '90's? You know, the plan thought up by the Cato institute which had the individual mandate as its centerpiece? Well that's now called [pejoratively] OBAMACARE! And get this...that phone subsidies for the poor that were enacted under Reagan? Those are now called OBAMAPHONES!

...so I guess he's got that going for him.
actually ... if facts mean anything to you'all ... Obama DOUBLED the rate of debt spending of the maniacal Bush cartel, and quadrupled the rate at which Reagan operated. He escalated the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan ... funded the conflicts in Libya, Egypt, Syria .....

But now for a dose of REAL REALITY .... Obama has done nothing .... he's nothing more than the latest Wall Street/Federal Reserve point man .. an actor on a stage, just like his predecessors were.

And if you ever wondered why a black president was finally elected to office at this point in history ... it's quite simple really ..... the extreme radical totalitarian agenda to which the real powers that be (the money men who pull the puppet strings) wanted to roll out NEEDED the drooling liberals to embrace it, while dismissing the opposition to this socialist/communist agenda as nothing more than racism, rather than what it really is, which is true patriotic opposition to the disastrous reformation of the United States of America into a totalitarian nightmare which would more accurately be named the United Soviet States of Amerika.

Obama's entire history is steeped in extreme left wing anti-American sentiment ... from his upbringing to those he associated with as a young adult. The extremist racist mentality was molded into him simultaneously, as evidenced by his "Pastor" who unashamedly bellows "God Bless America? No ... God Damn America".

If the founding fathers were here today, they'd hang the lot of them ... not for being black, but for being domestic enemies of our nation.
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:44 AM
 
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Her perspective is quite unique. She's a brilliant, supremely educated, articulate, tall, intimidating, versatile, classy dark-skinned black woman full of depth, character, integrity, and power. If you don't have the capacity to appreciate and even learn from her perspective, you are not as "fair-minded" as you think you are. More likely, racism clouds your judgment and ability to expand your own horizons, preventing you from learning something from this great woman. White racism against black people, is this country's greatest and continuing shame, and the First Lady has a perspective that is not only accurate but from a vantage point that no previous black woman has ever had.

It was an exceptional speech, so you are way off.
I'd be just as critical if it were a leader of the KKK making a speech before a mostly white audience ranting on about racist blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Native Americans holding back whites. It was a horrible speech and message for the First Lady to give.

She's the First Lady of the USA, not the First Lady for just black people like her.
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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Her perspective is quite unique. She's a brilliant, supremely educated, articulate, tall, intimidating, versatile, classy dark-skinned black woman full of depth, character, integrity, and power. If you don't have the capacity to appreciate and even learn from her perspective, you are not as "fair-minded" as you think you are. More likely, racism clouds your judgment and ability to expand your own horizons, preventing you from learning something from this great woman. White racism against black people, is this country's greatest and continuing shame, and the First Lady has a perspective that is not only accurate but from a vantage point that no previous black woman has ever had.

It was an exceptional speech, so you are way off.
Charter Schools as a youngster (as opposed to the government indoctrination centers most kids have to suffer) ... then, on to Princeton and Harvard ... then the White House .....

Yeah ... she sure has had her fair share of being held down by racist America

Oh, but of course, she was able to outwit them ... navigate around them ... plow through them with her powerful stature and supreme intellect ... against all odds, she beat them. That's the story, huh?
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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Charter Schools as a youngster (as opposed to the government indoctrination centers most kids have to suffer) ... then, on to Princeton and Harvard ... then the White House .....

Yeah ... she sure has had her fair share of being held down by racist America

Oh, but of course, she was able to outwit them ... navigate around them ... plow through them with her powerful stature and supreme intellect ... against all odds, she beat them. That's the story, huh?
sounds like a comedy sketch.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:32 AM
 
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Her perspective is quite unique. She's a brilliant, supremely educated, articulate, tall, intimidating, versatile, classy dark-skinned black woman full of depth, character, integrity, and power. If you don't have the capacity to appreciate and even learn from her perspective, you are not as "fair-minded" as you think you are. More likely, racism clouds your judgment and ability to expand your own horizons, preventing you from learning something from this great woman. White racism against black people, is this country's greatest and continuing shame, and the First Lady has a perspective that is not only accurate but from a vantage point that no previous black woman has ever had.

It was an exceptional speech, so you are way off.
I'm going to print this off and save it for the next time I fell like I really need to throw up. Your knee pads become you.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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I'd be just as critical if it were a leader of the KKK making a speech before a mostly white audience ranting on about racist blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Native Americans holding back whites. It was a horrible speech and message for the First Lady to give.

She's the First Lady of the USA, not the First Lady for just black people like her.
omg, can you imagine if a leader of the KKK gave a speech about blacks like that?
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:59 AM
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I wonder if she was speaking to a Jewish college graduating class would she have mentioned the Holocaust or to Indigenous people would she have mentioned the Trail of Tears or to Asians would she had spoke of the Internment Camps? I think she would be remiss if she didn’t. The fact that she shares personal experience with one group doesn’t absolve her of her duty as first lady to recognize the snares and toils of one group over another.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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For those of you who have heard it, I would assume most would feel the way I do. That being that not only was it beneath the First Lady of the United States to make such a divisive speech, but that she herself seems to be full of resentment (maybe even hatred). That in and of itself is a worthy topic for discussion.
However, while not discouraging such a discussion in this thread, I want to also focus on something else that is troubling in this country. Let me explain.

I consider myself a fair minded person who is willing to listen to the other side of an issue provided it is based on fact rather than emotion. By and large I need to know that emotion is not a deciding factor that cause fact and pragmatic action to be subverted.
When I hear a speech by the First Lady and it strikes me in the manner it did, I assume most other reasoned people would feel similarly. So it surprised me to be watching a report on the show "Today" where a black female reporter characterized the speech in a completely different way, almost praising it.
Granted being a white man I do not know what it is like to be a black woman, but how could we have heard that speech so differently

This was the First Lady, yet she sounded almost like a female version of the race merchant Al Sharpton(though not as bombastic). She made it seem as if she has held grievances (real and perceived) and that she has a massive chip on her shoulder.
Sure she has made some similar comments along the way, but I have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. Now I am not so sure.
For example feeling it was a slight or racially motived when a fellow shopper asked her to reach up and get something off a store shelf that was high. Michelle Obama is after all a tall woman, so it would seem perfectly natural for a shorter person to ask a taller person for assistance. With me being 6'7", I am regularly asked for such favors/help, and I don't think anything of it. I guess if I were to think about it, my assumption is that being tall is the reason. She instead apparently defaults to race as the reason.

The point of discussion I am getting at is that aside from the partisan koolaid drinking supporters of the Obama's, how can people see that speech in any type of a positive light?
Are we so polarized as a nation now that what I perceive to be a poor example of our countries First Lady's speech, can be seen by others as something positive?
Is it related to race, in that 6+ years of racial animus stirred up by Barak/Holder/Sharpton has caused black people to see things strictly through a lens of grievance?

I have not had the chance to discuss this with my black or liberal friends yet, so I wanted see what my fellow CD posters think of the this.

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PS - It would be interesting to know the race/gender of the posters if you so choose.

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Granted being a white man I do not know what it is like to be a black woman, but how could we have heard that speech so differently


Due to my extreme physical handicap:
I sure here and see quite a bit of difference of how whole bodied people view me over how i do. And how i should live my life even as to who i should or should not marry.

I can definitely see how a white man and a black woman will perceive life.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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Everything she said was spot on. Nothing was inaccurate.
I agree with you.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Should be Heritage Foundation not Cato Institute...can't edit...
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