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Old 05-16-2015, 12:12 PM
 
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I've noticed that those who are proud of the Obamas are unwilling to agree either one has ever done anything unpleasant.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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I am female. I am black.

I'm fine with the speech. It was given at Tuskegee University. It wasn't an "address the nation" moment. If it were, my opinion would change, but Obama was speaking to people who have shared her past experiences. I don't believe she was stirring the racial pot.

Maybe the OP doesn't know what happened in Tuskegee many years ago. Most white people don't know. Here's a link https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/0...ee-experiment/
Google "Tuskegee Experiment" for more. It's another horror that occurred to poor, black men in Tuskegee...at the hands of eager whites.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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First tell me exactly why you think my race and gender are important...
If I'm a black male - what would you say?
If I'm a black female - what would you say?
White female?
White male?

And what are you?
What am I?

I already said what I am in the opening post, or didn't you read it?

As to why I ask, it is more curiosity than anything else. However something that is starting to coalesce in my mind, is that my black friends and the ones I associate with, might not be representative of a majority of blacks.
Or at least that is the way the media might be framing it to the point of my seriously wondering if it is true.

I say this based on things like the OJ trial and how it seemed that so many blacks saw the trial and verdict differently than the rest of the country (i.e. all other races). That was really the first time I ever noticed what a huge difference in perception there was between most races and blacks.
The most recent example was the Zimmerman vs. Martin incident where many blacks interviewed seemed to be willing to totally ignore any facts in the case that mitigated the liberal news media version of what happened.

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Old 05-16-2015, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Why should the First Lady paint a rosy picture when that has not been her experience? She is in a great position to "tell it like it is".
So far as we know, She has lived a life of privelidge, went to the best schools, never toiled in a factory, or in some minimum wage job. Pretty much handed to her everything she could hope for without really putting any kind of real commitment. Remember that cushy $300,000 a year job that was basically handed to her because her hubby was a senator?
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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So far as we know, She has lived a life of privelidge, went to the best schools, never toiled in a factory, or in some minimum wage job. Pretty much handed to her everything she could hope for without really putting any kind of real commitment. Remember that cushy $300,000 a year job that was basically handed to her because her hubby was a senator?
Where is this coming from? Did she do well in school or not? If she did, she committed to that, and worked hard for it. Also being wealthy has nothing to do with experiencing discrimination....do you remember Oprah trying to buy a purse and they wouldn't buzz the door open for her cause they didn't know who she was, except she was black?

Is there actually a point to this thread? What is it the thread is hoping to accomplish? It seems like a "hey, let's bash the Obamas again, and we'll mention a recent speech so we can sneak it into Current Events!
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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Dude. I watched the vid on the link you posted, which, on its facebook page (DailyKenn) says upfront it's a right-wing extremist site. And the comments they added after her speech were definitely racist.

But her speech was not. She was just telling it like it is, trying to inspire the students at a historically black college to rise above the flack they get dealt out in the world. You were floored prob'ly because you never knew before what life can be like for Black college grads. Take it as a learning experience. Use it as motivation judge people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin, when you go out into the world. Have any of your friends, colleagues, or relatives hired a Black college grad for a career-track position, or to manage their company's computer systems, or for research or teaching?
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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So far as we know, She has lived a life of privelidge, went to the best schools, never toiled in a factory, or in some minimum wage job. Pretty much handed to her everything she could hope for without really putting any kind of real commitment. Remember that cushy $300,000 a year job that was basically handed to her because her hubby was a senator?
So you believe that wealthy, educated black people have never encountered discrimination or outright racism?

And so what if she has benefitted in some ways from her connections? It's politics. Nobody blinks an eye when it's a Bush or a Kennedy or a Romney who profits.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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So far as we know, She has lived a life of privelidge, went to the best schools, never toiled in a factory, or in some minimum wage job. Pretty much handed to her everything she could hope for without really putting any kind of real commitment. Remember that cushy $300,000 a year job that was basically handed to her because her hubby was a senator?
Source, please. As far as I can tell from her background and early life, there is nothing that indicated she had everything "handed to her." Sure, she never "toiled in a factory" - I don't know if she's ever held a minimum wage job - but my knowledge is that she came from a fairly humble background.

But even if she had this lavish life of privilege, you're proving part of her point. Despite the fact that she attended the best schools, and is incredibly intelligent and wealthy, some people see only her skin color. See choice comments from OP's youtube link, particularly, the top comment.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Great speech by Michelle Obama. She was telling the truth.
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Old 05-16-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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White woman here Yes there is discrimination but being asked to get something is not racist. I've been asked to reach for things too and people have often thought I worked at masny places notably Best Buy.
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