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Old 05-18-2015, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You are aware corporations have a lot more influence when it comes to laws that are passed for them, some cases a corporation can basically be asked to write a law for Congress. Then lets not forget that it is easy to get a Congress person to vote how the corporation would like them to vote. All it requires is plenty of campaign contributions and a nice promise of a high paying job when they leave Congress.

You ever wonder where those politicians go when they leave office? Typically to a nice paying job at one of those corporations that they voted to aid.

So yes, corporations do have a lot of say in how laws effect them go.
Just like the insurance industry wrote Obamacare.

But it's still up to Congress and the President to TECHNICALLY make it a law.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's 100% absolutely true, down to the last iota.

They can influence, they can write and even send along for consideration, and they can bribe all the live long day, but a law is made when it passes the House of Representatives, is then passed by the Senate and then finally signed into law by the President. The President can veto a bill that can still become a law if the House and Senate override with 2/3 majorities in each chamber.

That's how a law is made. Corporations TECHNICALLY have nothing to do with it minus influence. But Apple is not on any committees, they cannot call for a vote, offer amendments on the floor, openly debate, etc etc etc. They can sell indulgence and *****/thief politicians who sell their legislative wares can parrot those things Apple wants said or vote how Apple wants them to vote, but that is not by design or even a flaw...it's simply criminal quid pro quo.

It works like this, murder is not legal simply because some people still commit the crime. And selling a vote on legislation to the highest bidder is not legal even if every scumbag in the House and Senate does it every day.

But this is classic "blame the match for the fire, not the one who struck it" logic employed by partisans of either party who try to make the hookers on their side of the whorehouse look virtuous.
Well I guess if you want to overlook that important fact, then I guess you are technically correct.

That influence can be the major factor a law is passed to begin with. Oh, I blame the one who struck the match, but I am also aware of who gave them the matches in the first place.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Just like the insurance industry wrote Obamacare.

But it's still up to Congress and the President to TECHNICALLY make it a law.
Well if you wish to ignore the first part, then by all means, you are correct.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:28 PM
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Default The more college is 'free,' the more that those before you who had to do it are going to demand that you must also.

For everything. Degrees will be required to pick your noses, to wipe your rear ends.

You'll be sitting in classrooms until you rot. Forget lateral movement; you'll need another, different one.

And your hires still won't know how to write or how to put a project together.

You'll have the underemployed aspiring to academic jobs attempting to lecture each other for Big Government salaries and benefits. Stick a fork in your economy.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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You are aware corporations have a lot more influence when it comes to laws that are passed for them, some cases a corporation can basically be asked to write a law for Congress. Then lets not forget that it is easy to get a Congress person to vote how the corporation would like them to vote. All it requires is plenty of campaign contributions and a nice promise of a high paying job when they leave Congress.

You ever wonder where those politicians go when they leave office? Typically to a nice paying job at one of those corporations that they voted to aid.

So yes, corporations do have a lot of say in how laws effect them go.
They don't make laws. Period.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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Why are there 3 threads claiming college can EVER be free? Sure, you might not have to write a check, but SOMEONE is paying for it or a lot of someones. NOTHING IS FREE.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Did you have something you wanted to discuss, or do you just not have a Facebook account?
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They don't make laws. Period.
Yep, they don't do the voting on the laws, but everything else, corporations have their hand in....I guess you guys wish to overlook that fact when trying to blame Congress.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well if you wish to ignore the first part, then by all means, you are correct.
I'm not ignoring influence. Corporations cannot pass laws..PERIOD.
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Old 05-18-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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Yep, they don't do the voting on the laws, but everything else, corporations have their hand in....I guess you guys wish to overlook that fact when trying to blame Congress.
Why do you so desperately want to give a pass to those who take the corporate money and don't represent their constituents?

Once again, corporations can't make laws, period.
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