Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
29,449 posts, read 16,358,514 times
Reputation: 5952

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by lifeexplorer View Post
More like instead of going after the guy who broke the rules and brought germs into the clean room, you want to add more rules on the people who follow the rules.
NO, we arent debating that, the argument here is whether or not the clean room itself(Chicago) works, and it does, there for the thread is invalid.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:38 PM
 
72,834 posts, read 62,219,258 times
Reputation: 21786
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michigantown View Post
Why does Chicago keep getting mentioned like it has a top 10 murder rate.
In my opinion it is like a backhanded remark towards President Obama, who ironically was born in Hawaii, an ultraliberal state with a low murder rate.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:40 PM
 
46,178 posts, read 26,897,828 times
Reputation: 11076
Quote:
Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post
I just read the whole thread. A few of The "usual gun rights/race baiters" just barely,....by the smallest margin, condemned them and then, very grudgingly. Most of the usual gun right's foamers stayed out of the thread. Lots of comparisons about how the bikers were "good thugs" instead of those "evil black thugs".

I stand by my original post on the matter.
You said not a peep, you are wrong...you even say you are wrong....


Now, back on topic....

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona
13,778 posts, read 9,621,208 times
Reputation: 7485
Quote:
Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
You said not a peep, you are wrong...you even say you are wrong....


Now, back on topic....

OK. you win. There was a peep.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:43 PM
 
72,834 posts, read 62,219,258 times
Reputation: 21786
Sr. Louis, Newark, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, Philadelphia, all have higher murder rates than Chicago.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:44 PM
 
46,178 posts, read 26,897,828 times
Reputation: 11076
Quote:
Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post
OK. you win. There was a peep.
Finally some honesty...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego
50,107 posts, read 46,689,362 times
Reputation: 33943
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spatula City View Post
I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore.

I was saying that Chicago gun control doesn't work because the criminals can just go to Indiana, so gun control would need to be national to be effective.

It seems like you've conceded that point.
You make it sound like no one in Chicago ever purchased a weapon in Chicago, ever.

National? How would you round up 330 million weapons?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
12,287 posts, read 9,780,631 times
Reputation: 6509
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
You make it sound like no one in Chicago ever purchased a weapon in Chicago, ever.

National? How would you round up 330 million weapons?
I am sure he/she will volunteer to be the first one through the door to confiscate guns.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 01:25 PM
 
3,216 posts, read 2,074,779 times
Reputation: 1861
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsjj251 View Post
The Premise of your argument is that the laws in Chicago dont work, and that is untrue. The guns used here arent from CHicago, they are from every where else.

So no, your attempt at attacking Chicago does not prove the President wrong, it shows that other parts of this nation have very simplistic gun laws.
The only law in the city of Chicago that has somewhat of an impact is the banning of gun stores.
Travel outside of the city and bingo.
Straw purchasers don't need gun shows or to travel far.
3 Times as many gun recovered were from the state of Illinois than the next state of Indiana.

If my local grocery store closes, I just go to the nearest one to get my food.

Your premise only works if you close down guns sales in the US completely. Good luck with that... you know... 2nd amendment and all.
Then your only problem is the 320 million guns in existence. Criminal will always find a way to get guns.

Chicago is seen as having some of the most restrictive gun ordinances in the country. Gun shops are banned, and no civilian gun ranges exist. There is a ban on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. But more than 15,000 of the guns traced by the police came from just outside the city limits in Cook County and in neighboring towns that permit gun stores. States with the most guns recovered in Chicago....

Illinois22,051
Indiana7,747
Mississippi4,296
Wisconsin1,647
Kentucky1,226
Ohio1,121
Tennessee1,090
Alabama1,070
Arkansas944
Texas937

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...from.html?_r=0
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-19-2015, 01:40 PM
 
29,008 posts, read 14,345,745 times
Reputation: 14235
Quote:
Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post
I just read the whole thread. A few of The "usual gun rights/race baiters" just barely,....by the smallest margin, condemned them and then, very grudgingly. Most of the usual gun right's foamers stayed out of the thread. Lots of comparisons about how the bikers were "good thugs" instead of those "evil black thugs".

I stand by my original post on the matter.
Good thugs ? Is there such a thing ? Whether they are dirtbag 1% losers on Harley's or Tupac "thug life" hood rats aren't they really cut from the same cloth ? They are the garbage that make up the lowest forms of our society.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top