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Old 06-19-2015, 03:23 PM
Status: "Days like this I think to myself "I hate living in Georgia"." (set 3 days ago)
 
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I think gun control (and non control) advocates can all agree

Local State and City laws on gun regulation will have little or no impact on crime due to the freedom of travel of United States Citizens.




Gun rights people will say something along the lines "local laws proof it doesn't work" and Gun Control will note look at Australia/Europe . . nation laws have a huge impact. . .

and we go on


but hopefully we can all agree. . .local laws are pointless, the only hope is national control and regulation (if there is hope at all)
And there is something else you need to note. Countries in Europe with murder rates higher than ours: Lithuania, Estonia, Russia, Moldova, Belarus,

Even if we have national laws, criminals will still break them. That is MY point. When you have individuals who have a "live by the sword die by the sword" mentality, when there is a culture of violence, where violence is considered an appropriate way to solve disputes, that needs to be dealt with. Look at WHERE and WHOM is committed the majority of the murders and WHOM the victims are.
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:25 PM
Status: "Days like this I think to myself "I hate living in Georgia"." (set 3 days ago)
 
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Additionally, what gun law works when it's not enforced? We already have adequate gun laws that aren't enforced. If the current gun laws aren't enforced, why would anyone think that new gun laws would be.
Enforcing the laws we have might do something. The question is, what does that look like? How will we know they are being enforced?
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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Enforcing the laws we have might do something. The question is, what does that look like? How will we know they are being enforced?
Bottom line, you never will.
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Old 06-19-2015, 05:11 PM
Status: "Days like this I think to myself "I hate living in Georgia"." (set 3 days ago)
 
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Bottom line, you never will.
I don't want guns in the hands of criminals, specifically violent ones. On the other hand, how is one going to keep guns away from criminals? There are things I have to consider.

I'm not against background checks. That being said, this is something I want to bring up. Anyone who doesn't have a record can pass a background check. However, said person could do a straw sale after that.

As it currently stands, it would take a complete 180 to get guns off of the street. In order to do that, it would take violating Constitutional rights.
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:41 AM
 
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Yes, you would have to violate Constitutional rights to take guns away from law abiding citizens like myself. Criminals don't give a ****. We can't get illegal drugs off the street, we couldn't get alcohol off the street either...



Just another Puerto Rican pride parade in Humbolt Park Chicago


http://youtu.be/l9qRl7L-B4I



Loser third world gang bangers.... Notice how most people don't even flinch as that punk opens fire on the opposing gang.

Thank god I moved out of the city to the exurbs away from that ****
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