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Old 05-19-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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It's a stupid leftist meme the anti gunners continue to throw around that means ZERO, but sounds good...

Kinda like big truck, big tires...yea haawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wild west BABY!!!
Don't forget to throw "rolling coal" in there .. and shooting out the windows of the truck like Yosemite Sam.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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49 shot, not killed. only about six killed
Nine were shot to death.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:36 AM
 
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Why is the murder rate in New York City which has very strict gun control laws lower then? Why is the murder rate in Arizona higher than it is in New Hampshire? Murder rates have nothing to do with gun control laws or lack of them, but are a direct reflection of poverty and the quality of policing. This is why some states with strict laws have high murder rates, and others have lower murder rates. It's also why some states with permissive rules for gun ownership have low murder rates, and others have higher murder rates. The left needs to stop thinking that implementing strict gun control laws is going to reduce mass shootings and lower crime. The right needs to stop thinking that everyone owning a gun is going to make each person into Dirty Harry.
Or, even more so, we can look at Virginia and Missouri. Both allow conceal carry and open carry. Virginia has a Black population 2x as high as Missouri (both raw numbers and as a percentage of the state's population). Virginia's most murderous city, Richmond, has a lower murder rate than Kansas City,Missouri. Richmond also has a Black population larger than St. Louis, the nation's murder capital. Missouri's murder rate is higher than Virginia despite having only half as many Blacks and a considerably lower percentage of Blacks than Virginia. Both states have around 6 million+ residents. It leaves alot to wonder about the dynamics between Virginia and Missouri.

As for Arizona and New Hampshire, this is one theory I might pose. New Hampshire is known for the quintessential Yankee culture of New England. Arizona has alot of gangs, issues with illegal immigration, and from what I've read, there is still a bit of the Wild West, as far as I know. I could be wrong.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Remember how Obama said that Chicago is a "blueprint for national gun laws"? Can the liberals let us all know how that gun control is working out?

Oh, and let us know how many people were shot in "trigger happy" Texas last weekend.

49 people shot in Chicago over weekend: 'Whole bunch of shots' - Chicago Tribune
That's alright, they did not support Obama.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:41 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Texas just had a blood bath in which 25 were shot and 9 killed in one day alone
Which lessens the impact of Chicago how?
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Chicago is urban.

Texas is spread out.

Comparing the two is like comparing apple to orange.

Btw, this would point to even tighter gun control doesn't it?
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Not since by these reports it doesn't work. Kind of like abstinence as birth control.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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Chicago keeps getting pointed out. What about Baltimore and Newark? Those are cities more murderous than Chicago, in murders per 100,000. Baltimore just had riots. Both cities are in states with gun laws stricter than Illinois. I would look at those places.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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49 killed out of 2.7 million people over 200 sq. miles
9 killed out 200 people in a parking lot
I 'll take my chances in peaceful Chicago
804 shooting victims in Chicago since the beginning of this year.
2589 in 2014.

Shootings -- Crime in Chicagoland -- chicagotribune.com
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Do you know that gun control and gun prohibition are not actually the same thing?
Do you know, or are willing to admit, that the majority holding your point of view make no distinction between the two as long as they get the guns? Their idea of gun control is to allow no one to own one.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Why is the murder rate in New York City which has very strict gun control laws lower then? Why is the murder rate in Arizona higher than it is in New Hampshire? Murder rates have nothing to do with gun control laws or lack of them, but are a direct reflection of poverty and the quality of policing. This is why some states with strict laws have high murder rates, and others have lower murder rates. It's also why some states with permissive rules for gun ownership have low murder rates, and others have higher murder rates. The left needs to stop thinking that implementing strict gun control laws is going to reduce mass shootings and lower crime. The right needs to stop thinking that everyone owning a gun is going to make each person into Dirty Harry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fh6eLXGmog
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