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Old 05-19-2015, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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You mean that everyone was actually going to consider what I said despite the fact that it doesn't mesh with their dogmatic hard right perspectives?

What forum do you think you're on, exactly?
No, he means that anyone who considered what you said to have an iota of truth. It doesn't.

The truth is you can't abide anyone who disagrees with anything you say, so you have to lie about it.


as for which forum we are on, certainly not one requiring facts and truth or you wouldn't be here.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:02 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Of course he lied.

Does that mean he didn't actually get the guns, isn't in prison for the next 16 years, the whole story is made up and there's no problem?
Yep, your whole story as posted is a lie. From yur point of view, we expect nothing else.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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The Premise of your argument is that the laws in Chicago dont work, and that is untrue. The guns used here arent from CHicago, they are from every where else.

So no, your attempt at attacking Chicago does not prove the President wrong, it shows that other parts of this nation have very simplistic gun laws.
No, in fact it shows that more guns are used in Chicago without regard to their source.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:06 AM
 
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Why is the murder rate in New York City which has very strict gun control laws lower then? Why is the murder rate in Arizona higher than it is in New Hampshire? Murder rates have nothing to do with gun control laws or lack of them, but are a direct reflection of poverty and the quality of policing. This is why some states with strict laws have high murder rates, and others have lower murder rates. It's also why some states with permissive rules for gun ownership have low murder rates, and others have higher murder rates. The left needs to stop thinking that implementing strict gun control laws is going to reduce mass shootings and lower crime. The right needs to stop thinking that everyone owning a gun is going to make each person into Dirty Harry.
Wrong, the murder rate is a direct reflection of the percentage of drug dealers and gang bangers.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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You have no idea of what you are talking about seeing as Minnesota, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are on your list. Those states are about as Liberal in philosophy as they come.

Heck, Utah is a liberal paradise when it comes to how to run government.

Montana for the last decade has actually be run by Democrats, not Republicans, same for Kentucky.

Wyoming and Idaho are the only 2 states on this list completely controlled by Conservatives and Republicans.
Did you think before you posted this list ????
Do you live in Utah? I do and the state government is hardly liberal. Usually considered "redneck".

Next time, make up a believable lie.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Why is the murder rate in New York City which has very strict gun control laws lower then? Why is the murder rate in Arizona higher than it is in New Hampshire? Murder rates have nothing to do with gun control laws or lack of them, but are a direct reflection of poverty and the quality of policing. This is why some states with strict laws have high murder rates, and others have lower murder rates. It's also why some states with permissive rules for gun ownership have low murder rates, and others have higher murder rates. The left needs to stop thinking that implementing strict gun control laws is going to reduce mass shootings and lower crime. The right needs to stop thinking that everyone owning a gun is going to make each person into Dirty Harry.

You need to look up the word "culture." Preferably in a book 50+ years old (it actually did have a meaning at one time).
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Aztlan
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Blacks killing blacks. No story here.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I do hate to read this about Chicago and how the liberals have screwed up this once-peaceful city, like it was during the 1920 and 30s.
Thanks for the laugh!
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If there's no need to cross borders or go to gun shows, why do you think so many Chicago guns come from Indiana?

Excellent question, I have not seen a good answer.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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You have no idea of what you are talking about seeing as Minnesota, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are on your list. Those states are about as Liberal in philosophy as they come.

Heck, Utah is a liberal paradise when it comes to how to run government.

Montana for the last decade has actually be run by Democrats, not Republicans, same for Kentucky.

Wyoming and Idaho are the only 2 states on this list completely controlled by Conservatives and Republicans.
Did you think before you posted this list ????
I clearly thought far more than you if you consider Kentucky, Montana and Utah liberal but it's par for the course, anti gun nuts are pretty ignorant. Continue to ignore that liberal cities are where most of the crime originates and ALL of the worst, most dangerous places in the country are run by liberal democrats.
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