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Old 05-24-2015, 01:19 AM
 
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Maybe so, but no one cares. Our school is nicer, Tempe and the whole East Valley is better than every other Big Ten college town, our campus is nicer, weather is warmer, girls are prettier, and we have a hell of a lot more fun....in addition to getting a damn good education.
Only if getting admitted to a school that ranks below ALL 14 of the Big 10 schools is the best one can do.

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Besides, we're still better than Oral Roberts.
What's with your fixation on Oral Roberts? It's closer to the SEC or ACC than it is to any Big 10 school.

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Old 05-24-2015, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So Bama is only ranked higher than the few schools you listed out of those three conferences? Thanks for proving my point The whole of the SEC is a mediocre academic conference. Auburn? Mississippi State? Ole Miss? South Carolina? LSU? Pretty poor schools-----but it's a historical problem----The South has always been poorer than the North and West....before 1970 there was NO industry---just farms and beaches. Kids had to join the military to escape the poverty which continues to this day in Miss. Louisiana, South Carolina and Alabama. The Southerners simply didn't have the money to build the top academic institutions that the North and West did. But they're catching up----it will take awhile to build the research facilities of the Big 10 and Pac 12 though----but they're trying hard. The South is still trying to overcome what General Sherman did to them.
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Vandy, UF, and aTm are the only really good SEC schools. Big MO is probably there, too. The SEC has great difficulties raising funds for their endowments due to the relative lack of wealth held by their alumni base. Again, it's a historical problem....stemming from the same reasons why they got their butt kicked when they tried to secede. It's been tough for them to compete with the industrial power and ingenuity of the North.

The B1G has been very close academically---they aren't just an athletic conference that everyone gets together to play football against (this is how the SEC has acted for a very long time---and their academic achievements sadly reflect this).....MSU and the recently added Nebby are the two little sisters of the poor. Everyone else is pretty top notch....with world class research facilities, big endowments, big student bodies, and great history.
The kid in the OP will be taking honors courses. He will get an education just as good as one offered by an Ivy League school. I applaud his decision to make what appears to be financially the best decision for himself.

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I was right here while he went to interviews, while the sister helped fill out all the paperwork. It is a full ride, and it doesn't matter how many "rep" comments someone sends me arguing with me in the rep comment, he got a full scholarship, and yes it did come from them.
Full financial aid is not the same as a "merit" scholarship. The schools we are talking about are so competitive that essentially everyone who is admitted would qualify for a "merit" scholarship. A "merit" scholarship would be awarded without regard to any financial contribution the student and his family could make.

Here is what Dartmouth says:

https://npc.collegeboard.org/student/app/dartmouth

"Dartmouth is committed to the philosophy that the cost of a college education should not be a deterrent to a prospective student. We guarantee to meet 100% of each student's financial need during their four years of undergraduate study. We award financial aid solely on the basis of financial need. We do not offer merit, talent, or athletic scholarships."

Your nephew's family income falls into a range where Dartmouth is giving him a "full ride", but it is more properly termed a grant than a scholarship.
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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Based on what criteria?
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Only if getting admitted to a school that ranks below ALL 14 of the Big 10 schools is the best one can do.


What's with your fixation on Oral Roberts? It's closer to the SEC or ACC than it is to any Big 10 school.
It's your alma mater. That's my fixation.

Moreover , I'm from Arizona...I wouldn't be caught dead living in Big Ten country for 4 years. 4 hours is too long.

Possible exception being Northwestern, and that's only because my dad is an alum.
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Old 05-25-2015, 01:15 AM
 
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It's your alma mater. That's my fixation.
It's not my alma mater. Your inferior ASU education must be the cause of your delusionally misinformed condition.

ASU ranks below ALL 14 of the Big 10 schools, every single one.
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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It's not my alma mater. Your inferior ASU education must be the cause of your delusionally misinformed condition.

ASU ranks below ALL 14 of the Big 10 schools, every single one.
So what? No one cares. It's still ASU, and will always be more desirable than any Big Ten school as long as it's in Tempe.

No one is their right mind is gonna pick Iowa, Nebraska, Illinois, Penn State, Minnesota or some other Midwestern icebox over ASU. Not you or anyone else.

I'm a Proud Sun Devil. You're wasting your time.
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