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Old 05-19-2015, 08:42 PM
 
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I thought this was quite interesting. This kid from Tennessee (Memphis area) ends up rejecting all the Ivies because of financial concerns.

This story is a lot like my son's own situation back in 2007 when he was accepted into Cornell, but the out of pocket costs meant that I wouldn't have had enough leftover for his grad school...not to mention his car and stipend. I would've had to use all of the money on partial tuition, board and meals. So he chose another school instead offering the same program.

Anyway, this kid chose Alabama, and if you read the link, his reasons are pretty solid.

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/nation...icle-1.2226678
I had no idea how many kids had been accepted to all 8 in the past few years.

Ronald Nelson is just one.

Kwasi Enin, 8 for 8 in Ivy League admissions, selects Yale - CNN.com

Minn. high school senior accepted to all eight Ivy League schools - StarTribune.com

Harold Ekeh Accepted to Every Ivy League School: Advice from Kwasi Enin : People.com

Victor Agbafe got into all 8 Ivy League schools explains why he chose Harvard over Stanford - Business Insider

Stefan Stoykov accepted to all eight Ivy League schools - Business Insider

The only thing they have in common (the Bulgarian broke the skin color up) is they are all products of off the boat immigrants.

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Old 05-19-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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I am impressed the kid had enough sense to not go in for the big debt. Sounds like he really is smart. Good for him.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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no offense, but im starting to believe being accepted to Cornell isnt all that big of a deal seeing as the IRL School actively recruited me, waived my application fee and then told me my total tuition was going to be upwards of 30,000 after scholarships.


He still picked a good choice with Bama though RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No offense taken, but Cornell's Hospitality Program is the best in the world on a perennial basis. There's Cornell, and then there's everyone else. If you want to go into the Hotel and Restaurant business, you WILL NOT be selected for a job over a Cornell grad. That's how good they are.

My son still went to one of the best hospitality schools in the world...very few can beat the Franke School.

But then, he decided to get a master's in education instead of pursuing his MBA. So Cornell would've been a waste of my money anyway.
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Are we sure he's not affirmative action child who probably won't be able to keep up in the Ivy League?
LOL...make wine. Won't be sweet, but that's a better use of those grapes.
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Ivy league schools are overrated. You can get equivalent education, maybe better in some areas, for cheaper all over the US (and the world actually). You won't get the magical 'I went to X' badge, but most people didn't go to Ivy league, so no harm there really.

It really sucks that he was accepted to all of them but couldn't go because they're asking for more than it actually is worth though. If ever there was someone who deserved to go to Ivy league, it's someone that all of them are competing to get.
I wouldn't say that they're overrated per se. Going to an Ivy is about more than an education. Actually, the education is just the beginning. Ivy League grads are frighteningly well connected, and that fraternity is undoubtedly well worth the dough. I think it goes far deeper than you or I can imagine.

These elite schools have Mafias (i don't mean violent or crime related...but i think you understand).
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You do know that Ivy League used skin color as a factor and if you are of certain color, you can get accepted even you have significantly less scores, right?
Not really. Doesn't work that way.

Besides, this is all 8 schools. They saw something special about this kid beyond race.
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Ivy League schools do not give any scholarships - it's all need based financial aid. So his family obviously has resources that meant that he would get less financial aid from an Ivy than he would get from a school that was providing merit based scholarship money that wasn't based on financial need.
I think he's from Germantown which is affluent, but his sister is about to graduate from college which means his parents can no longer claim to support two children. I don't think they considered that as a factor when he applied. They likely just overlooked it. So he's gonna have to come up with significantly more money than he previously thought he'd have to spend.
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He has a 4.58 GPA and 34 out of 36 on ACT yet you think hes unqualified. Figures
Conservative Republicans....pay'em no mind.
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THis is either the second or third I've heard of this this year and they were all minorities.

Guess the WASPs no longer fit the NWO Ivie AA agenda, eh?
Oh, so you're confessing that WASP's were huge beneficiaries of their own brand of AA, huh?

Bout time.
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they dont give athletic scholarships, they do give scholarships in other fields.
Correct. My son was offered a partial and it was a significant amount of money. I could've paid the remaining expenses, but he could forget grad school coming out of my pocket. Nevermind the car and any stipend money.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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Most people who have applied to college know that your overall resume matter more than one test does.

a kid with who took Piano, Video production, Key Club, and Forestry Club with a 3.5 GPA is more likely to get into one of the upper echelon schools than the person with a 4.0 who did nothing else.
Not quite right.

A kid who took piano, video production, key club, forestry, was president/founder of a club/sport AND had a 4.0+ (on a 4.0 scale) AND had 2300+ SAT or 34+ ACT AND had a significant amount of AP/IB classes, MAY have a shot at a top 20 school.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:01 PM
 
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Not quite right.

A kid who took piano, video production, key club, forestry, was president/founder of a club/sport AND had a 4.0+ (on a 4.0 scale) AND had 2300+ SAT or 34+ ACT AND had a significant amount of AP/IB classes, MAY have a shot at a top 20 school.
Meh...i don't see how you can know that.

Everyone acts as if they know what every admissions department is looking for, but if you're not there, you don't really know.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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Meh...i don't see how you can know that.

Everyone acts as if they know what every admissions department is looking for, but if you're not there, you don't really know.
It's not super secret knowledge.

Schools (especially the Top 20) release statistics on their new admits. It's all out there.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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Are we sure he's not affirmative action child who probably won't be able to keep up in the Ivy League?
Did you read the article? He has a 4,58 GPA. Was class president, and an award winning saxophone player. He earned a 34 out of 36 on his ACT and a 2260 out of 2400 on the SAT.

Why would you even suggest such a thing?
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Did you read the article? He has a 4,58 GPA. Was class president, and an award winning saxophone player. He earned a 34 out of 36 on his ACT and a 2260 out of 2400 on the SAT.

Why would you even suggest such a thing?
Take a guess.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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He's from Germantown, basically the wealthiest suburb of Memphis. Had kind of hoped he'd come from a Memphis high school, but those success stories are quite rare I suppose.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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ACT score is impressive, but the GPA is low, considering the sheer number of AP and honors courses available to the average high school kid these days. Also, it depends if his school grades on a ten point spread (80-89 = B, for example) or a 7 point (94-100 = A).

My daughter graduated from high school in 2010 with a 4.8 GPA on a 7 point spread.......and was 48th in her class. The valedictorian graduated with a 5.1GPA, and is now in medical school at UNC. The high school in question -- one of the top in NC, as well as a Top 200 nationwide -- had a graduation rate of 99% that year, and was 98% for nearly a decade.

While Ivy League schools are largely overpriced, the connections you can make -- if you know how to network as a teenager/early 20-something -- can be life-changing.
Not every school has the same grading system. Congratulations to your daughter, but anything over 4.0 is still pretty darn impressive.
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