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Old 05-19-2015, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Smart kid!
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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He just proved to me why he got those scholarships. I wish him well.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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Ivy league schools are overrated. You can get equivalent education, maybe better in some areas, for cheaper all over the US (and the world actually). You won't get the magical 'I went to X' badge, but most people didn't go to Ivy league, so no harm there really.

It really sucks that he was accepted to all of them but couldn't go because they're asking for more than it actually is worth though. If ever there was someone who deserved to go to Ivy league, it's someone that all of them are competing to get.
There are certainly schools where you can get an equivalent education as an Ivy league school, but they are just as competitive... and in many cases, just as prestigious. I wouldn't call them overpriced.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Japan
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He's from Germantown, basically the wealthiest suburb of Memphis. Had kind of hoped he'd come from a Memphis high school, but those success stories are quite rare I suppose.
His parents must be pretty well off if Harvard was going to make them pay a lot in tuition to attend.

Probably a good choice overall to go to the state school. He avoids any stigma of affirmative action (which he doesn't need) and stays close to home and family support network. And since he aced the ACT and SAT, he'll likely have no trouble with the MCAT and be able to attend any med school he wants.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:57 PM
 
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Ivy League schools do not give any scholarships - it's all need based financial aid. So his family obviously has resources that meant that he would get less financial aid from an Ivy than he would get from a school that was providing merit based scholarship money that wasn't based on financial need.
This is key. The family had money. It's not like this child was underprivileged.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:59 PM
 
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they dont give athletic scholarships, they do give scholarships in other fields.
This is incorrect. No Ivy League school currently offers merit-based scholarships. They do have generous need-based financial aid packages, however.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Not quite right.

A kid who took piano, video production, key club, forestry, was president/founder of a club/sport AND had a 4.0+ (on a 4.0 scale) AND had 2300+ SAT or 34+ ACT AND had a significant amount of AP/IB classes, MAY have a shot at a top 20 school.
You do know these schools have "class profiles" right ?


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some of the schools individual websites will tell you exactly how many kids got in with what ACT scores and GPAs
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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This is incorrect. No Ivy League school currently offers merit-based scholarships. They do have generous need-based financial aid packages, however.
ugh, this is a distinction without a difference argument.

an Institutional financial aid package that has academic requirements is still a scholarship no matter how you spin it.

if you can lose a "grant" or part of your aid package because your grades dropped, and not because your parents made more money, then it is not income based.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:16 PM
 
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Well, this would never happen to a white kid.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:20 PM
 
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ugh, this is a distinction without a difference argument.

an Institutional financial aid package that has academic requirements is still a scholarship no matter how you spin it.

if you can lose a "grant" or part of your aid package because your grades dropped, and not because your parents made more money, then it is not income based.
Satisfactory academic progress is a requirements of all institutional and federal financial aid. That doesn't make it a scholarship. The only requirement to qualify for the aid is merit. You can lose it by performing poorly just like you can lose federal financial aid.

Interesting way to twist it up, however... but unsuccessful.
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