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Might be worth $15 an hour if the illegals were not part of the mix.
Should government compensate legal workers for the wages lost to illegal immigration?
No, you aren't entitled to a wage. Why are you always looking for a government handout? Maybe you should try being more valuable to an employer than an illegal.
I have plenty:
1. Get better education
2. Upgrade your skills
3. Work with better work ethics
Do you have any that is not using other people's money to pay yourself?
Most firefighters, nurses, and home health care workers went and "got some skills", and most work extremely hard. Yet you're OK seeing them being paid paltry wages. You sound like a real winner.
And if you want to bring up "using other people's money", how about our tax dollars shouldn't be used to subsidize the pay of employees at wealthy corporations like Walmart?
Most firefighters, nurses, and home health care workers went and "got some skills", and most work extremely hard. Yet you're OK seeing them being paid paltry wages. You sound like a real winner.
And if you want to bring up "using other people's money", how about our tax dollars shouldn't be used to subsidize the pay of employees at wealthy corporations like Walmart?
Working hard does NOT mean providing value.
If you think firefighter's pay is too low, then don't be a firefighter. Once there is a shortage for firefighters, the pay will increase to attract more people.
What you are doing is basically forcing people to pay above fair market rate, which is neither right nor moral, and not the thing you would even do personally.
I said this multiple times. It is not because the employers don't want to pay more; it is because the work being performed isn't worth that much.
Why should a reasonable and prudent person pay for something at the above fair market rate? Why would the liberals force people to do that while themselves wouldn't even do.
If you think firefighter's pay is too low, then don't be a firefighter. Once there is a shortage for firefighters, the pay will increase to attract more people.
Everytime min wage goes up people use these arguments and they never happen. If a business can not afford to pay their employees a decent wage then they need to have less employees until they can afford to pay more but seems on here people wil make any excuse so businesses can pay low wages.
In other words, job loss. More unemployment. Some will make more per hour, some will make zero.
In other words, job loss. More unemployment. Some will make more per hour, some will make zero.
Actually, no, because the business needs X number of hours worked. So if business needs 80 hours worked per week, he seems to feel it's better that instead of having two workers working 40 hours each at $8 per hour, he wants one to lose his job and the other to work 80 hours at $8 per hour.
My question is this, if the worker doesn't want to put in 80 hours a week, do we threaten him with jail?
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The bottom line is that a company will have a job that has a set value per hour. If you try to artificially raise that value by force, the company will either have to raise prices or artificially reduce the value of other jobs. In other words, you either offset that raise because goods will cost more or you take money from other workers to increase the pay of those deemed, by the government, to not make enough.
I'd love to see the faces on the middle class hero-wanna-bes if their company said their pay was being reduced to increase the pay of the guy in the mail room.
I bet the reaction would be very similar to that of Will Smith when he was talking about how he agreed with higher taxes and then heard about what happens in France.
I am all for a social experiment in Seattle, LA and elsewhere. Let's see what happens. Employers' actions will speak louder than words. Maybe it will fail, maybe it will be fine, who knows.
I am all for a social experiment in Seattle, LA and elsewhere. Let's see what happens. Employers' actions will speak louder than words. Maybe it will fail, maybe it will be fine, who knows.
Mick
If you owned a small business and this "social experiment" put you out of business, how would you feel then?
I am all for a social experiment in Seattle, LA and elsewhere. Let's see what happens. Employers' actions will speak louder than words. Maybe it will fail, maybe it will be fine, who knows.
Mick
It will of course be all of the above. Some will adapt, some will close. In Seatac the places that had a $15 minimum imposed on them cut benefits to employees. At least one Seattle restaurant increased their minimum to $15 before the city forced it, and raised prices 21% and discourage tipping to compensate. So the dishwashers in the back are making more, the servers and hosts in the front are making less and the customer is paying more. As Pedro pointed out the money has to come from somewhere.
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