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Old 05-26-2015, 12:58 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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I'm proud of US history. I have no hard feelings for what was done in the past as it has made us what we are today.
And just exactly what is America today? The most hated nation on earth by many.A country that cannot win,and has not won a war, without using NUKES [and had to be drug into WWII,the hell with helping friendly nations,and don't forget the secret relationship with Hitler,and those German scientist after the war!],not even technologically retarded countries like Vietnam and Iraq!

A country that deposed several democratically elected leaders and installed cruel dictators to be our "YES MEN"!

History Of US Backed Dictators - Redux | BlueBloggin

What the heck is there to be proud of?
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:05 AM
 
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And just exactly what is America today? The most hated nation on earth by many.A country that cannot win,and has not won a war, without using NUKES [and had to be drug into WWII,the hell with helping friendly nations,and don't forget the secret relationship with Hitler,and those German scientist after the war!],not even technologically retarded countries like Vietnam and Iraq!

A country that deposed several democratically elected leaders and installed cruel dictators to be our "YES MEN"!

History Of US Backed Dictators - Redux | BlueBloggin

What the heck is there to be proud of?


We won the Cold War without using nukes......you think if Japan and Germany had nukes they wouldn't use it to win WW 2?......Hitler gassed 6 million Jews for fun and you doubt he would have used Nukes if he had them?


Name me countries that the majority hates us and I show you countries under dictatorships, uneducated and with extreme poverty that treat women, gays and minorities like animals.




Name me 1 country that the people elected democratic leaders and the U.S. deposed of them by military force....name 1....this will be fun!
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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And just exactly what is America today? The most hated nation on earth by many.A country that cannot win,and has not won a war, without using NUKES [and had to be drug into WWII,the hell with helping friendly nations,and don't forget the secret relationship with Hitler,and those German scientist after the war!],not even technologically retarded countries like Vietnam and Iraq!

A country that deposed several democratically elected leaders and installed cruel dictators to be our "YES MEN"!

History Of US Backed Dictators - Redux | BlueBloggin

What the heck is there to be proud of?
Wait...and you're still here? There are hundreds of flights out of this country. Heck, you can even drive to a neighboring country - you're not forced to live here.

I'm a proud immigrant - I LOVE this country!!!!!!!
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:17 AM
 
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if you bring Chile's Allende then you are clueless.


Allende didn't get elected by the majority of the People of Chile in 1970....he got 36%, I hardly call that a democratic majority.

He was a Communist supported by the Soviet Union and Cuba's Castro during the Cold War so DUH!!!! the U.S. supported Allende's political opposition in Chile.....it was the cold war.....the Soviets did it all over the world to knockdown governments and bring a communist revolution. Castro and Che tried the same thing they did in Cuba in Central and South America with Soviet support and weapons and you wanted the U.S. to do nothing?


The U.S. didn't put 1 American troop in Chile to deposed of Allende......it was done by the Chilean moderate and conservative parties and the Armed Forces of Chile with the intel support of the U.S.........the Soviets and Castro were supporting Allende.


again, that's how the cold war was fought and won.....if you feel ashamed because the U.S. stood against the Soviets and the bigger picture than you are clueless how to fights wars and win.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:20 AM
 
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Measuring a country's success by winning wars is stupid war is a terrible and brings out the worst in everyone. I would measure America by the positive things that have come from it's citizen's. Where would the world be without American inventions that have brought good to the world look at the impacts to the world with medicine. The first HIV drugs such has Saquinavir that really worked were invented in America death from AIDS plumited after Saquinavir was released in 1995.
The History of HIV Protease Inhibitors

What about aircraft the first flight and the personal computer none of us would be even typing here if it wasn't for the drive and will to sell personal computers driving down cost to fraction of what CPU's cost in the 1970's.

American freedoms brings out the best in humanity.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:28 AM
 
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Measuring a country's success by winning wars is stupid war is a terrible and brings out the worst in everyone. I would measure America by the positive things that have come from it's citizen's. Where would the world be without American inventions that have brought good to the world look at the impacts to the world with medicine. The first HIV drugs such has Saquinavir that really worked were invented in America death from AIDS plumited after Saquinavir was released in 1995.
The History of HIV Protease Inhibitors

What about aircraft the first flight and the personal computer none of us would be even typing here if it wasn't for the drive and will to sell personal computers driving down cost to fraction of what CPU's cost in the 1970's.

American freedoms brings out the best in humanity.


so fighting the the Nazis and the Empire of Japan and the Soviets in the cold war were stupid wars???


Do you realize how the world would be if the Nazis and Soviets won?....fighting extreme jihadists is also stupid? we should just let them expand and kill as many innocent people they come across while we ignore it?



That is a GREAT accomplishment to defeat evil empires who wanted to enslaved millions of people and killed over 50 million people in wars they started.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:37 AM
 
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you know how many countries and how many millions of people the American Soldier have freed in the last 70 years?....think about it.


WW 2 and Cold War......even the countries we defeated we helped built back up and made them into better countries with solid economies...Germany, Japan and South Korea comes to mind.

Europe was broke and destroyed after WW2 in 1945...with the Red Army and a dictator in Stalin wanting to expand.....who was the only country that stood in their way? USA


That is a GREAT AMERICAN accomplishment in history and many Americans died to achieved that.
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:37 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Name me countries that the majority hates us and I show you countries under dictatorships, uneducated and with extreme poverty that treat women, gays and minorities like animals.

Name me 1 country that the people elected democratic leaders and the U.S. deposed of them by military force....name 1....this will be fun!
D-U-H!~Mohammad Reza Pahlavi came to power during World War II after an Anglo-Soviet invasion forced the abdication of his father Reza Shah. During Mohammad Reza's reign, the Iranian oil industry was briefly nationalized under 'the democratically elected' Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh before a U.S. and UK-backed coup d'état deposed Mosaddegh and brought back foreign oil firms.

Mohammad Reza Pahlavi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Chilean President Salvador Allende

Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens (Spanish: [salβaˈđoɾ aˈʝende ˈɣosens]; 26 June 1908 – 11 September 1973) was a Chilean physician and politician, known as the first Marxist to become president of a Latin American country through open elections.[2]

Allende's involvement in Chilean political life spanned a period of nearly forty years. As a member of the Socialist Party, he was a senator, deputy and cabinet minister. He unsuccessfully ran for the presidency in the 1952, 1958, and 1964 elections.

On 11 September 1973 the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état sponsored by the United States Central Intelligence Agency.[3][4][5] As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, Allende gave his last speech vowing not to resign.[6] He died later that day in uncertain and controversial circumstances.

Salvador Allende - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of American supported DICTATORS~
Abacha, General Sani ----------------------------Nigeria
Amin, Idi ------------------------------------------Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo ---------------------------Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio --------------------------------Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal ----------------------------Brunei
Botha, P.W. ---------------------------------------South Africa
Branco, General Humberto ---------------------Brazil
Cedras, Raoul -------------------------------------Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio -----------------------------------Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek ---------------------------------Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo ------------------------Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo -------------------------------El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn ---------------------------------Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel ----------------------------Liberia
Duvalier, Francois --------------------------------Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude-----------------------------Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King ---------------------Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco -----------------------Spain
Hitler, Adolf ---------------------------------------Germany
Hassan II-------------------------------------------Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand -------------------------------Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez ---El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko -------------------------------Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel ------------------------Panama
Ozal, Turgut --------------------------------------Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza ---------------Iran
Papadopoulos, George --------------------------Greece
Park Chung Hee ---------------------------------South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto ---------------------Chile
Pol Pot---------------------------------------------Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni ------------------------Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios ---------------------Guatemala
Salassie, Halie ------------------------------------Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira --------------------Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. --------------------------Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. -------------------------Nicaragua
Smith, Ian ----------------------------------------Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo -----------------------------Paraguay
Suharto, General ---------------------------------Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas -----------------------Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael ------------------Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed ----------------------Pakistan


Why Does The United States of America Support Dictators?




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Old 05-26-2015, 01:39 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Wait...and you're still here? There are hundreds of flights out of this country. Heck, you can even drive to a neighboring country - you're not forced to live here.

I'm a proud immigrant - I LOVE this country!!!!!!!
Other countries are not as easy to immigrant to,so I'M STUCK HERE!
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Old 05-26-2015, 01:46 AM
 
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D-U-H!~Mohammad Reza Pahlavi came to power during World War II after an Anglo-Soviet invasion forced the abdication of his father Reza Shah. During Mohammad Reza's reign, the Iranian oil industry was briefly nationalized under 'the democratically elected' Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh before a U.S. and UK-backed coup d'état deposed Mosaddegh and brought back foreign oil firms.

Mohammad Reza Pahlavi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Chilean President Salvador Allende

Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens (Spanish: [salβaˈđoɾ aˈʝende ˈɣosens]; 26 June 1908 – 11 September 1973) was a Chilean physician and politician, known as the first Marxist to become president of a Latin American country through open elections.[2]

Allende's involvement in Chilean political life spanned a period of nearly forty years. As a member of the Socialist Party, he was a senator, deputy and cabinet minister. He unsuccessfully ran for the presidency in the 1952, 1958, and 1964 elections.

On 11 September 1973 the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état sponsored by the United States Central Intelligence Agency.[3][4][5] As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, Allende gave his last speech vowing not to resign.[6] He died later that day in uncertain and controversial circumstances.

let me repeat what I wrote since you obviously didn't respond and get your info from wikepedia and you are clueless:



Allende didn't get elected by the majority of the People of Chile in 1970....he got 36%, I hardly call that a democratic majority. He was put in the presidency by making deals with other parties to form a coalition since he didn't get a majority with the promise that he was going to defend and protect the Chilean constitution which he violated many times and the Chilean Supreme Court ruled against him.

He was a Communist supported by the Soviet Union and Cuba's Castro during the Cold War so DUH!!!! the U.S. supported Allende's political opposition in Chile.....it was the cold war.....the Soviets did it all over the world to knockdown governments and bring a communist revolution. Castro and Che tried the same thing they did in Cuba in Central and South America with Soviet support and weapons and you wanted the U.S. to do nothing?


The U.S. didn't put 1 American troop in Chile to deposed of Allende......it was done by the Chilean moderate and conservative parties and the Armed Forces of Chile with the intel support of the U.S.........the Soviets and Castro were supporting Allende.


again, that's how the cold war was fought and won.....if you feel ashamed because the U.S. stood against the Soviets and the bigger picture than you are clueless how to fights wars and win.
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