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Old 05-21-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Tell it to the Catholic church. Gays are attracted to the priesthood and, from there, turn their interests toward young males in the congregation. Perversion, once embraced, is easily expanded upon.
And again, logic fails you, a pedophile isn't any one specific sexual orientation. a STRAIGHT person can be as much of a pedophile as a gay person can. Being attracted to men doesn't mean you are attracted to boys too.
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Old 05-21-2015, 05:50 PM
 
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This will be the death stroke for Scouting. Would you allow your son to go camping with a gay man?
I grew up where scouting is co-ed. Dozens of parents sent their daughters camping with me, back when I was a scoutmaster, and I'm heterosexual. So?

It's not a matter of adult gender attraction, it's a matter of keeping adults who are attracted to children of any gender away. It's a matter of professionalism in leader training. And it's a matter of setting up rules so that there can't even be the impression of impropriety. If your organization can't do that, it has no business being responsible for children in the first place.

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Scout leaders are supposed to be mentors and role models for growing boys.
Yes, and?
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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And again, logic fails you, a pedophile isn't any one specific sexual orientation. a STRAIGHT person can be as much of a pedophile as a gay person can. Being attracted to men doesn't mean you are attracted to boys too.
You miss the point. Gays do not respect morality or natural laws in their lust for people of the same sex. Their perversity in those matters makes them highly suspect in others. Common sense tells us so even if liberal dogma covers it up. No matter, it is wise not to take chances with our youth even if they are remote. Surely the boy scouts can go on without having to allow homosexual scout masters in the fold.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:09 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This will be the death stroke for Scouting. Would you allow your son to go camping with a gay man? Scout leaders are supposed to be mentors and role models for growing boys. Why didn't gays simply start a parallel organization if they didn't like Scouting as it was? They would be free to indulge in any behavior they choose rather than destroy what had been a hallmark of American culture and a good, safe environment for young boys.

Meanwhile, Girl Scouts have their own freak show going on as discussed in another thread.

This country is circling the drain.
At least it should be. But in the upside down, inside-out world of today? I have my doubts.

Yes, and today that circle is fast and mighty small.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:12 PM
 
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Several of the molesters from the scouts were married men. So, banning gays would not have prevented them from being involved in scouting. You know what will? The rules that adults are supposed to follow. No adult is to be alone with any child except their own child.
Yes, because no gay man has ever married a woman before.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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You miss the point. Gays do not respect morality or natural laws in their lust for people of the same sex. Their perversity in those matters makes them highly suspect in others. Common sense tells us so even if liberal dogma covers it up. No matter, it is wise not to take chances with our youth even if they are remote. Surely the boy scouts can go on without having to allow homosexual scout masters in the fold.
You miss the point. Adulterers do not respect morality or natural laws in their lust for people to whom they are not married. Their perversity in those matters makes them highly suspect in others.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Yes, because no gay man has ever married a woman before.
And those people would not be banned from being scout leaders. Only those who are open and honest would be banned.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:29 PM
 
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I'd more trust my son around a gay troop leader than Robert Gates.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This will be the death stroke for Scouting. Would you allow your son to go camping with a gay man? Scout leaders are supposed to be mentors and role models for growing boys. .
Uh. I thought scouting was about camping and fire building...where does sex come into it?
I don't want some strange man (gay or straight) being a role model for sexuality in any way.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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Sad to see people confusing pedophilia with gay people. Two entirely different things. I see male teachers all the time who deal with dozens of girls in their classes. There's nothing WRONG with that. There are thousands of gay men out there in organizations and in their jobs who deal with boys during their work. There's nothing WRONG with that.

There's something wrong with pedophiles, but that crossover from gay to pedophile is the exact same as the crossover from a straight person to a pedophile.

Back in 1990 I was in the scouts and our den leader was a lesbian. We knew it I guess, but it didn't matter at all, she was a great woman. Her sexuality had nothing to do with being a Scout leader.

Who cares if a Scout leader is gay? Who cares if they're straight? If there's a problem there then obviously deal with the problem, but a gay person is as much of a "threat" to any child, boy or girl, as a straight person would be to a child, boy or girl.

Gay people are just PEOPLE like you and me. They might have a certain sexuality, but that isn't all they are, it doesn't define them as a person. So many people see gay people for their sexuality and then they can't go further than that and actually see them for the normal, everyday PERSON that they actually are. They aren't a living, breathing, walking sexuality. They're just your coworkers, neighbors, family members, group members, classmates.
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