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Old 05-22-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Well, how about some specific examples of hypocritical Josh?





(CCHO is the Christian Children's Home of Ohio; he was a keynote speaker for one of their events)
They're sick hypocrites! They spread lies about gay people and pretend that they're "pro child" I bet if you cleaned out the closets of all the haters at the Family Research Council, you could fill a cemetery People who are so obsessed with others' sex lives typically have some deep issues they're trying to hide.

 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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Would you at least conclude that Josh was behaving in a sexually deviant manner? It is normal for a 14-year old boy to have sexual urges and curiosity and the female body. It IS not normal to act on those urges with one's SISTERS! I have 3 brothers, and I can assure you that nothing like that ever took place in our house, neither have I EVER met a woman who said a brother had touched her inappropriately. If this were common, I think I would have known/heard of at least one person who had experienced it.

So call him what you want: deviant, pervert, pedophile. What he did is not normal.
I already stated clearly in an earlier post that what he did was wrong and disgusting. I at no time suggested it was common or normal. What I am pointing out is that at the end of the day, true pedophiles can't be "cured". Those interviews were done 2-3 years after the abuse occurred and in each one, the interviewees stated that it had never happened again. I'm inclined to believe that whoever Jim Bob shipped the boy off to beat the **** out of him on a daily basis and instilled the fear of God into him. If anyone comes forward with anything since these incidents, I will gladly apologize and depending on the age of the new victim, will dub him pedophile or pervert whichever is appropriate. K?
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Where rhotic consonants are either absent or intrusive
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Let me get this straight: shaming perpetrators and the people who protect them is what stops victims from reporting? That's some ****ed up logic on your part.

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So unhelpful.

No one is saying it's NORMAL. Some of us are saying IT'S COMMON. TOO COMMON.

Not saying it's OKAY because it happens. SAYING IT HAPPENS MUCH MORE THAN REPORTED.

This unhelpful shaming response is one reason it's not reported. It's bad enough as it is, much less trying to get across to people with an agenda that it happens and needs to be addressed!!!
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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I've never watched the show and could really care less as to how many kids they have or whatever, but I have noticed that there seem to be a lot of people in jubilation this has occurred.

I think it's kind of despicable so many of you seem so happy this happened. Obviously, it's not even in the same universe in terms of the horrendous acts carried out by this pervert who molested his sisters, but I still find it pretty bad that so many seem to rejoice that it happened.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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Sorry but the parents are just as guilty as josh for not reporting it and handling it how they did.

Grab a bowl of popcorn and a coke along with a comfy chair its only going to get more interesting from here on out. lol
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Would you at least conclude that Josh was behaving in a sexually deviant manner? It is normal for a 14-year old boy to have sexual urges and curiosity and the female body. It IS not normal to act on those urges with one's SISTERS! I have 3 brothers, and I can assure you that nothing like that ever took place in our house, neither have I EVER met a woman who said a brother had touched her inappropriately. If this were common, I think I would have known/heard of at least one person who had experienced it.

So call him what you want: deviant, pervert, pedophile. What he did is not normal.
They probably had him convinced that masturbation (which is 100% normal for a 14 year old boy) would send him to hell, so he was seeking another outlet.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I've never watched the show and could really care less as to how many kids they have or whatever, but I have noticed that there seem to be a lot of people in jubilation this has occurred.

I think it's kind of despicable so many of you seem so happy this happened. Obviously, it's not even in the same universe in terms of the horrendous acts carried out by this pervert who molested his sisters, but I still find it pretty bad that so many seem to rejoice that it happened.
As a gay married man with children, I'm happy that their sick hypocrisy has been exposed. I'm sick of organizations like the Family Research Council (a Hate group Josh worked for) pointing fingers at gay men and spreading likes that we're all disease-ridden predators when one of their own is the SEXUAL PREDATOR. Those of us who pay attention know that these anti-gay religious nuts are the ones with the sexual problems.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:22 AM
 
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You are being ridiculous. Of course no one just blurts out something like that to an acquaintance over coffee.

I have had many close friends who have shared difficult experiences with me, such as rape, serious mental illness in their family, physical abuse. But I've never heard of a brother fondling a sister. I have no doubt that it happens. But I contend it is not so common, and definitely not NORMAL, to the point that anyone should view it lightly!
No, I'm not being ridiculous. You are naive. Even if your close friends have shared life experiences with you do you seriously believe a friend would share THAT? If so, you have no true comprehension of the shame that a victim of a sexual crime feels.

Things go on in families you'd NEVER imagine: in rich families, poor families, all races, all backgrounds, divorced, intact, blended, doesn't matter. But what I can tell you is that very few of this situations get discussed. No one just brings it up to a friend, even a close friend, and very few end up getting charged & going to court.

No one said it was NORMAL. No one said it should be viewed LIGHTLY. (not sure where you are getting any of this from).

My point is/has been that this goes on in homes & families, yes, in perfect beautiful American homes, all the time. Not just in the Duggar house. It is wrong every time it occurs. It is not normal every time it occurs. And should NEVER be taken lightly.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
I've never watched the show and could really care less as to how many kids they have or whatever, but I have noticed that there seem to be a lot of people in jubilation this has occurred.

I think it's kind of despicable so many of you seem so happy this happened. Obviously, it's not even in the same universe in terms of the horrendous acts carried out by this pervert who molested his sisters, but I still find it pretty bad that so many seem to rejoice that it happened.
This is one of the best comments!

It is disturbing that so many are rejoicing in the pain of this family.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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Josh confessed to his parents; they took immediate action and received counseling; and reported it to the police. What more does society want? If society is so hard that it continues to throw stones even after a person is remorseful, gets treatment, and does a 180. . . they are sending the message there's no sense in anyone changing for the better because society will continue to tar and feather that individual for the rest of their lives.

Am definitely not condoning his actions; yet I applaud Josh and his parents for taking the proper steps to remedy the situation and ensure it never happens again.
Oh for gods sake, you can't even be serious. Let's hope you or your kids are never molested by some POS like this. I'd love to hear your justification & forgiveness...."Well, he said he was sorry. That's all I need".
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