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Old 05-22-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles>Little Rock>Houston>Little Rock
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I'm sorry, but I just don't see the rejoicing or titillation mentioned here. What I see is people disgusted by his actions as well as people worried about the girls that have been molested.

 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Well, here's the thing. They failed to take 'corrective action to prevent the recurrence of the wrongdoing' between 2002 and 2003. I blame the parents all the way. They failed - period.

I feel for a 14 year old boy that had obvious issues. Who's parents turned to two men for 'assistance'; one of who is in jail right now for child pornography and another that has had sexual allegations made against him. I feel for the girls who are nothing more than slave labor and breeding machines.

I hope they get out. The sooner the better.
You were doing ok and then went off on a tangent.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:39 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I don't think it did happen. I think if the Duggars had sought professional counseling for the victims, it would have come out by now since they are in damage control-mode.

They have probably been made to feel that their sinful bodies tempted their brother to his actions.

This kind of thing doesn't just come out of nowhere btw. My ex husband spent a year working with juvenile sex offenders. The vast majority of them had been molested themselves.

The fact that Jim Bob was buddies with a cop doing time for child porn makes me wonder if Josh wasn't a victim himself.

I think you are doing a whole lot of speculating there.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Tonawanda NY
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What's disturbing to me is that from all accounts, Josh himself said he confessed to his father. Confessed what? Touching and fondling? If anything more serious went on, I doubt he'd say anything about it and I think his sisters, in that household, wouldn't say anything either. All we know so far is what we've read and if something else happened that wasn't reported, how would anyone know about it?
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but I just don't see the rejoicing or titillation mentioned here. What I see is people disgusted by his actions as well as people worried about the girls that have been molested.
You see what you see.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:41 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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They judged others. I'm judging them. They were wrong in the way they handled this situation. They were also wrong in the way they lied to the world about how perfect they were, how they had all the answers and how Godly they were.


The Duggars most certainly are different my family and many of the ones I know. We don't go around judging non-Christians, homosexuals or other Christians.

It would appear that you are doing just that. From the get-go.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles>Little Rock>Houston>Little Rock
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You see what you see.
Yes, I do. As do most people.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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I think you are doing a whole lot of speculating there.
I think so too, but this is a message board, not a court of law. Do you think the girls received counseling and the family and Josh just didn't mention it?
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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I think you are doing a lot of speculation, perhaps projection in your post.

There is no evidence that the parents blamed the girls for what happened to them, or that they received no counseling, or support in dealing with and coming to terms with what happened to them. Perhaps that was your experience (frankly it was mine too), and if so, I am truly sorry you have to live withthat. But it doesn't give you a window into the issues in a case that have not been made public.
The evidence that they blamed the girls is that the girls were told they must dress modestly so the males are not aroused. This puts the responsibility on the girls and makes them feel like they can control what boys are thinking and doing. If a boy is aroused then it's the girl's fault for doing or saying something to tempt them.

I didn't speculate that the girls hadn't received counseling. I asked. And I hoped it wasn't religious counseling because many fundamentalist religions continue to teach that the girls have some responsibility when sexual crimes happen to them.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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The evidence that they blamed the girls is that the girls were told they must dress modestly so the males are not aroused. This puts the responsibility on the girls and makes them feel like they can control what boys are thinking and doing. If a boy is aroused then it's the girl's fault for doing or saying something to tempt them.
Is that more of an overarching belief of how girls should dress instead of their reasoning for how the girls caused this to happen? Virtually all parents have some sort of dress code for boys and girls.

I agree - a lot of speculation going on here. 'Tis the controversy driven internet though.
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