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Old 05-22-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Montana
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Isis claims it could buy its first nuclear weapon from Pakistan within 12 months - Middle East - World - The Independent

This is not good. Time for the West to step up and deal with this threat and stop ignoring it. Thank god Britain & Australia both have a PM that take a stance against radical Islam. France, the US, and Canada not so much...

 
Old 05-22-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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No one can really do much about ISIS anymore. It has spread to become a decentralized entity and if they gain nuclear weapons and set one off, just what can anyone do about it?

Lets say that next year ISIS manages to acquire and set off a nuclear device and kill a few hundred thousand people in the USA or some other "western" country.

Just who is going to be on the retaliation end since ISIS isn't in one place, isn't one country, has no single leader, no single financial resource?

Haven't we learned anything? Did attacking Afganistan solve anything? Bin Laden wasn't even there when finally eliminated. Even so, did that solve anything?

The genie is out of the bottle and there isn't only one. No technology, no amount of troops, equipment or anything else can do much about ISIS. We can't simply go into Iraq and wipe them out because they aren't only in Iraq.

The fact is even if we knew where they all were we couldn't do much about it now. We had the chance and blew it, for no other reason than to let it happen.

It is now just a matter of time and there is no scenario where ISIS is stopped, the capability to stop them no longer exists.

Think of it this way. Every day someone throws some garbage on your lawn. It isn't the same person, it changes every day and not only that but they come from some place different every day too. You can put up a fence but they just throw the garbage higher and over the fence. You can't just have the police watch your place because they come anytime they want to and when caught, another one comes the next day. Then on top of that, some come dressed up as the police.

Before you say we (the US and Allies) can eventually disrupt them and marginalize them to ineffectiveness think it through and be sure to say with some clarity just how that would happen.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by JoanCrawford View Post
Isis claims it could buy its first nuclear weapon from Pakistan within 12 months - Middle East - World - The Independent

This is not good. Time for the West to step up and deal with this threat and stop ignoring it. Thank god Britain & Australia both have a PM that take a stance against radical Islam. France, the US, and Canada not so much...
Nah.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/step...ight-1.2778982

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...sis-safe-haven

Questions remain as Stephen Harper unveils government’s plan to bomb ISIL in Syria | Ottawa Citizen

Charlie Hebdo massacre bolsters Stephen Harper’s tough line on radical Islam: Walkom | Toronto Star
 
Old 05-22-2015, 11:06 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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Yeah like Pakistan is going to
Actually give them a nuclear
Bomb.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Not happening. If Pakistan gave them a nuke, where do you think is the first place the US will lob its cruise missiles?
 
Old 05-23-2015, 12:07 AM
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Middle East should have been made safe for decent people decades ago.
 
Old 05-23-2015, 12:31 AM
 
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Not happening. If Pakistan gave them a nuke, where do you think is the first place the US will lob its cruise missiles?
Please tell us where. What targets do you think they would hit in Pakistan?
 
Old 05-23-2015, 01:13 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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Nothin' to worry about. Some genius in Washington said that ISIS, I mean ISIL, is just the JV team.
 
Old 05-23-2015, 01:30 AM
 
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I highly doubt it.
 
Old 05-23-2015, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The US gives Pakistans military several billion $$$ every year, not because we think there a great bunch of friends, but to pay them to keep there nukes safe. The pakistani's are not going to risk losing there cash cow.


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