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Old 05-22-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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Well that's the concept of Israel... It's democratic and secular... But for Jews only. Arabs living in Israel proper are giving voting rights but are an insignificant part of the population. They de facto Govern the occupied territories as well, but those Arabs have no voting rights. They're deathly afraid of the State actually having any true pluralism as then the state is no longer dominated by Jews.

In other words, apartheid, de facto Nazism and the anti-thesis of the Western European nation state models.

 
Old 05-22-2015, 06:27 PM
 
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Well that's the concept of Israel... It's democratic and secular... But for Jews only. Arabs living in Israel proper are giving voting rights but are an insignificant part of the population. They de facto Govern the occupied territories as well, but those Arabs have no voting rights. They're deathly afraid of the State actually having any true pluralism as then the state is no longer dominated by Jews.

In other words, apartheid, de facto Nazism and the anti-thesis of the Western European nation state models.
That's very unfair.

Come on..It's a very tiny country. Logistically, they simply can't afford to be a huge haven for non Jews.

As to their treatment of the Arabs, it's certainly discriminatory, but Apartheid is a bit strong.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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That's very unfair.

Come on..It's a very tiny country. Logistically, they simply can't afford to be a huge haven for non Jews.

As to their treatment of the Arabs, it's certainly discriminatory, but Apartheid is a bit strong.

"Logistically, they simply can't afford to be a huge haven for non Jews."

True, then they would be like their Muslim neighbors, who get along so well with each other.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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There would be a lot of white people leaving America.
Some illegal aliens ARE "white". Why pay illegals to leave? Just arrest then deport their kind.
 
Old 05-22-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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The same thing came up a few years ago in Japan but on all not native born in paying them to leave.
 
Old 05-23-2015, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Well that's the concept of Israel... It's democratic and secular... But for Jews only. Arabs living in Israel proper are giving voting rights but are an insignificant part of the population. They de facto Govern the occupied territories as well, but those Arabs have no voting rights. They're deathly afraid of the State actually having any true pluralism as then the state is no longer dominated by Jews.

In other words, apartheid, de facto Nazism and the anti-thesis of the Western European nation state models.
Last time I checked the Palestinian Authority has autonomy over the West Bank. But I don't waste my time with trolls.

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That's very unfair.

Come on..It's a very tiny country. Logistically, they simply can't afford to be a huge haven for non Jews.

As to their treatment of the Arabs, it's certainly discriminatory, but Apartheid is a bit strong.
While their is a p$ssing match between Jewish and Arab society, Arab citizens in Israel enjoy the highest quality of life than in any other country in the Middle East.
 
Old 05-23-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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This is pretty smart; if you're going to be deporting illegal immigrants regardless and can pay them to leave for less than the cost of deporting them, that's a win-win slam dunk as long as it isn't enough money that people start trying to enter the country specifically to collect on the offer.
 
Old 05-23-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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It was $1,500 but now Israel will pay African refugees $3,500 to leave. This will help to "protect the Jewish and democratic character" of Israel.

"We are determined to remove the tens of thousands of infiltrators who are here, after we lowered to zero the number of work-seeking infiltrators who have entered Israel’s cities" - Netanyahu

Israeli government to pay African refugees $3,500 to leave - Middle East - World - The Independent

Israel sure is generous handing out AMERICAN taxpayer dollars
 
Old 05-23-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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This is pretty smart; if you're going to be deporting illegal immigrants regardless and can pay them to leave for less than the cost of deporting them, that's a win-win slam dunk as long as it isn't enough money that people start trying to enter the country specifically to collect on the offer.
Be nice if we could do that here too
 
Old 05-23-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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Hmmm. But many Jews in Western countries are always pushing for "diversity." Curious thing, that.
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