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Old 05-24-2015, 10:37 PM
 
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There is a lot of talk about "equal pay" on a gender basis and now women can serve in combat units in the military. Hillary Clinton wants to be elected commander in chief of our armed forces, yet she has never served a day in the military. It is true that she can't be called a draft dodger(like her husband) since women were not subject to the draft, but nothing prevented her from volunteering for military service during the Vietnam War. Why should we put her in charge of all U.S. servicemen and servicewomen when she wouldn't take the initiative to serve herself?
I'm not sure, she can't even answer the red phone.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Yes.

Bush graduated from Harvard and liberals constantly called him stupid and incompetent, what makes you think graduating from Harvard makes this hopelessly corrupt candidate qualified? Shouldn't the POTUS have at least a shred of integrity? Hillary clearly doesn't.
Careful, you may have just added a word to the liberal pc banned word list: integrity.
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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There is a lot of talk about "equal pay" on a gender basis and now women can serve in combat units in the military. Hillary Clinton wants to be elected commander in chief of our armed forces, yet she has never served a day in the military. It is true that she can't be called a draft dodger(like her husband) since women were not subject to the draft, but nothing prevented her from volunteering for military service during the Vietnam War. Why should we put her in charge of all U.S. servicemen and servicewomen when she wouldn't take the initiative to serve herself?
Stupid post. Hillary and I are about the same age. Serving in the military was not a consideration for women in the mid 60s.
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The country relied on the Selective Service System to draft sufficient numbers of young men, but the armed services maintained that women volunteers needed to be smarter and more qualified than these men in order to perform the jobs open to them. And they needed to be feminine.

Military recruiting brochures targeting women promised “challenging jobs with unlimited opportunities.” But in fact, most truly challenging technical jobs were closed to women, and those already trained and experienced in technical skills such as engine repair, equipment maintenance, intelligence, weather and radio operations were retrained for jobs the military considered women's work.

In the Army, WACs no longer underwent bivouac training or weapons famliarization. WAF recruits were told how to apply lipstick correctly and Women Marines were told their lipstick and nail polish had to match the scarlet braid on their uniform hats. Even in Vietnam under combat conditions, women were told to dress in skirts and pumps rather than boots and field clothing in order to project a neat and feminine image. Their careers were further limited because women were allowed few promotion opportunities and none could serve as admirals or generals. Women in the US Military - 1960s
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Old 05-25-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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When did the Bush boys go in the military? (Crickets) enough said....
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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When did the Bush boys go in the military? (Crickets) enough said....
Which one? George W. Bush served in the military - he was qualified. Jeb Bush did not serve in the military - he is not qualified. By the way it is considered inappropriate to not allow some time go by before using the "crickets" meme, but you may be new to internet forums so I will let that pass. Besides, it doesn't work with me if you thought that you were scoring some partisan points. I despise both parties. Democracy exists to inhibit change.
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Old 05-25-2015, 05:49 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Stupid post. Hillary and I are about the same age. Serving in the military was not a consideration for women in the mid 60s.
And yet many did serve. How do you explain that?
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: in the soup
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There is a lot of talk about "equal pay" on a gender basis and now women can serve in combat units in the military. Hillary Clinton wants to be elected commander in chief of our armed forces, yet she has never served a day in the military. It is true that she can't be called a draft dodger(like her husband) since women were not subject to the draft, but nothing prevented her from volunteering for military service during the Vietnam War. Why should we put her in charge of all U.S. servicemen and servicewomen when she wouldn't take the initiative to serve herself?
Military service would be a mark against her in my view. Killing brown people who never attacked us for a paycheck isn't admirable. And that's been our military's primary mission since WWII ended.
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I don't know about the conservative narrative. It is the truth. I despise both parties, so don't think that you are scoring any points. The truth doesn't see partisan nonsense and the truth is that Congress voted for war. Can you not handle the truth?
Congress authorized the use of force. Bush pulled the proverbial trigger.
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:33 PM
 
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And yet many did serve. How do you explain that?
During the Vietnam era, 7000 women served in the military. http://www.va.gov/vetdata/docs/speci...3_2_12_v_7.pdf Most of them were nurses. http://www.nationalvietnamveteransfo...statistics.htm

I wouldn't call 7000 "many," more like "some." As I said, military service was not a consideration for most women in the 1960s.
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Old 05-25-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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She would have been a K-9.
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