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Old 05-28-2015, 01:19 PM
 
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What truth? Are you seriously suggesting that the Nebraska legislature is liberal?
The truth is that the liberal party is THE party that pushes for anti-death penalty... period...
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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For the sake of argument let's say I would. I can in theory see me stealing food to feed my family if things turned bad and I had to feed them. Should I take up the position that theft should be O.K.?



I can picture someone like Jeffrey Dahmer suffering in how he died more than anything the state could have done to him. I'm not so sure it wasn't harder on him to be alive.
Torturing someone to death and stealing food too keep you and your family alive are no where close to being in the same ball park.


Oh, well. To each their own opinion. I tend to feel more for the victim then the criminal though, that's just me...
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:35 PM
 
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Torturing someone to death and stealing food too keep you and your family alive are no where close to being in the same ball park.
I guess you missed the point. Just because I can see me doing something wrong for some reason doesn't make it right. The argument fails.

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Oh, well. To each their own opinion. I tend to feel more for the victim then the criminal though, that's just me...
I don't feel bad for what happened to Dahmer. It happened because of choices he made.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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I guess you missed the point. Just because I can see me doing something wrong for some reason doesn't make it right. The argument fails.



I don't feel bad for what happened to Dahmer. It happened because of choices he made.
I did, but just like you am not willing to change my point of view. I am and always will be for the death penalty, for someone that is beyond a doubt guilty for people like Dahmer, Lansza , I-57 killer...etc.
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Old 05-28-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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The lengths some will go to justify their beliefs. {rolling eyes}


its not going to lengths its the truth sir.



Sounds like you are ordering their killing.

The law is not me. These two do not deserve life they have proved that they are still harming even from behind max security. Death is the only suitable option for people like them. Unless you want to take them in?
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Some crimes are at the state level, some are at the federal level. A good argument could be made that killing someone is the ultimate denying them of their civil rights, and it should be a federal crime. And I find the Federal Government no less competent than the state governments (this isn't saying too much about the feds. I just don't see the states being any better.)

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See, this is the liberal position. Handing over everything to the federal government. Not that they can do much of anything right.



Sort of like how the federal government didn't know that the Syrian rebels were Isis and wanted to fund them? Competence like that?
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Excellent! I'm against the death penalty. Two wrongs don't make a right, and even if it might "feel good" to get revenge, it's not civilized or moral.
It is not "revenge." It is justice.
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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The law is not me.
You support it.

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These two do not deserve life they have proved that they are still harming even from behind max security. Death is the only suitable option for people like them. Unless you want to take them in?
Try to get beyond simplistic arguments.
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Sorry to burst your bubble but you have to allow more than one appeal because they are various Courts in the hierarchy.
well not according to what is being said right now here in AR, not to mention there are ways to change the sytem. There can be a simple appeal, like what happens when a person is about to be executed. Just reviews by the governor or whomever. I am talking about lenghty appeals that take weeks, months or years to evern prepare. Excutions could be handled in a way that would reduce the cost.
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I agree, and it would be very feasible if States would stop prosecuting people for petty drugs crimes.
This post has nothing to do with people being prosecuted for what you call petty drug charges. If you are referring to people being locks up for smoking pot, give us an example. That just doesn't happen. People get locked up for selling it especially to minors or for robbing a liquor store to pay for the pot, but they do not get sentents to time in prison for smoking it or possessing it. this a cop out by those who want all drugs legalized.
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