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Old 05-30-2015, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by CanuckInPortland View Post
Bikers dealing in the meth trade has ruined more lives in the US than Muslims ever have.

People like this aren't bikers dealing in meth.

They are meth dealers who happen to be in a biker gang.

Funny how the left is soooo quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorists but now wants to paint all bikers as a bunch of meth dealing, KKK members.

Take a guess who's the most active in standing up to the Westboro Baptist morons and keep them away from the families of the deceased at the funerals ?

Bikers of the non-meth dealing variety, which make up the vast majority of bikers in America.

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Old 05-30-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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But this not one of those cases. These people are intentionally using "cartoons" to provoke a confrontation. Light years away from what happened in Denmark where art is exhibited that promotes dialogue about all religions and their issues.

This is the equivalent of walking into a Celtic bar in a Rangers strip on an Old Firm day. There's no art in this. Just bigots looking to promote a reaction.

I can lay out all mouse traps I like in my home, but they will just sit there with the cheese getting moldy......

Unless I actually have mice.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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One percenters consider weekend.bikers wannabees and.fakes.
And radical Islam sees moderate, peaceful Muslims the same way.

What's your point?
 
Old 05-30-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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But this not one of those cases. These people are intentionally using "cartoons" to provoke a confrontation. Light years away from what happened in Denmark where art is exhibited that promotes dialogue about all religions and their issues.

This is the equivalent of walking into a Celtic bar in a Rangers strip on an Old Firm day. There's no art in this. Just bigots looking to promote a reaction.
You may be right but it doesn't matter. We don't need the First Amendment to protect our right to display Van Gogh paintings or to talk about the weather. We need the First Amendment to protect our right to express ourselves in a way that we choose, not in a way that the government chooses.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 09:35 AM
 
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You seem to be determined to hang a scarlet letter on that Mosque, for some reason.
You seem to be willing to dismiss what is coming out of that Mosque.....for some reason. Including the 2 shooters.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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People like this aren't bikers dealing in meth.

They are meth dealers who happen to be in a biker gang.

Funny how the left is soooo quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorists but now wants to paint all bikers as a bunch of meth dealing, KKK members.

Take a guess who's the most active in standing up to the Westboro Baptist morons and keep them away from the families of the deceased at the funerals ?

Bikers of the non-meth dealing variety, which make up the vast majority of bikers in America.

Patriot Guard Riders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
People tend to put ALL bikers in a gang.......misled Americans! Also, if the biker is in the military this seems to be a real problem with some.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 09:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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And radical Islam sees moderate, peaceful Muslims the same way.

What's your point?
Then why do you often hear moderates and thier Apologist here attacking Christians or jews even more often then radicals? Is it because even though they are radicals they are still fellow Muslims? For every "Those people dont represent me" you hear 10 attacks on Christians say "Look how bad they are too".
 
Old 05-30-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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People like this aren't bikers dealing in meth.

They are meth dealers who happen to be in a biker gang.

Funny how the left is soooo quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorists but now wants to paint all bikers as a bunch of meth dealing, KKK members.

Take a guess who's the most active in standing up to the Westboro Baptist morons and keep them away from the families of the deceased at the funerals ?

Bikers of the non-meth dealing variety, which make up the vast majority of bikers in America.

Patriot Guard Riders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nope, all bikers are guilty until they speak out and protest against criminal biker gangs, we can't have a double standard here...

Wait, you're telling me it's not fair when people judge an larger group based on the actions of a few members of that group? Oh, boo hoo, because you people never ever do that on here when it's other certain demographic groups.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 10:34 AM
 
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You may be right but it doesn't matter. We don't need the First Amendment to protect our right to display Van Gogh paintings or to talk about the weather. We need the First Amendment to protect our right to express ourselves in a way that we choose, not in a way that the government chooses.
This is not a First Amendment issue.

If I bad-mouth your mother, it's not the First Amendment that prohibits you from punching me in the mouth, its the state laws prohibiting assault and battery.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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Nope, all bikers are guilty until they speak out and protest against criminal biker gangs, we can't have a double standard here...

Wait, you're telling me it's not fair when people judge an larger group based on the actions of a few members of that group? Oh, boo hoo, because you people never ever do that on here when it's other certain demographic groups.
Your argument is ridiculous.

Riding a motorcycle does not make you a member of a group any more than driving a car does.

The average motorcycle rider is no more a Hell's Angel than a 9 to 5 commuter in a Toyota Camry is a NASCAR driver.

Is it necessary for every Camry driving commuter to publicly speak out against road raging drivers in order to not be accused of being complicit with idiots behind the wheel?

Some moderate Muslim's will condemn acts of terrorism committed in the name of their religion, but even among those who do, many will always include a "but" in their left handed disagreement with acts of terror.

As in "I don't agree with the shooting/bombing/beheading/whaterever, but America/Charlie Hebdo/Name your infidels of choice should not disrespect Islam."

Funny how Liberals always seem to say something similar isn't it?
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