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Old 06-04-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It has nothing to do with a scarf.

What the Supeme Court reiterated is that employer's can't discriminate on the basis of religion and that they must make reasonable accommodations for an employee to be able to express their religious views. This is not a new concept and the stance benefits those of all religious persuasions.



I think people are most freaked out at the thought of having to be exposed to more foreign cultures and views then they can handle.....going to Nordstrom and having the girl behind the perfume counter wearing a hijab or a bindi, oh the horror of it all!!!!

 
Old 06-04-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How is offense relative or about the topic?
The store usually decides on rules of dress as not to offend their customers. One doesn't wear short shorts to work in most work places, and usually the store policy takes into account what is offensive to their customers..
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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What the Supeme Court reiterated is that employer's can't discriminate on the basis of religion and that they must make reasonable accommodations for an employee to be able to express their religious views. This is not a new concept and the stance benefits those of all religious persuasions.



I think people are most freaked out at the thought of having to be exposed to more foreign cultures and views then they can handle.....going to Nordstrom and having the girl behind the perfume counter wearing a hijab or a bindi, oh the horror of it all!!!!
Fascism allows no autonomy.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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What the Supeme Court reiterated is that employer's can't discriminate on the basis of religion and that they must make reasonable accommodations for an employee to be able to express their religious views. This is not a new concept and the stance benefits those of all religious persuasions.
For the umpteenth time. Some seem to be able to while others can't.

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I think people are most freaked out at the thought of having to be exposed to more foreign cultures and views then they can handle.....going to Nordstrom and having the girl behind the perfume counter wearing a hijab or a bindi, oh the horror of it all!!!!
I've defended the rights of Muslims in many threads. I was one of the very few willing to defend their right to pray at the top of the Empire State Building.

This is NOT just about Muslims.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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The store usually decides on rules of dress as not to offend their customers. One doesn't wear short shorts to work in most work places, and usually the store policy takes into account what is offensive to their customers..
Hooters offends many potential customers.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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For the umpteenth time. Some seem to be able to while others.

All can as long as the accommodations are reasonable and don't affect their ability to do the job. That is what the protections are for.

That said, having religious beliefs doesnt entitle one to a job, an employer can use a myriad of reasons to justify hiring someone, A&F flat came out and said that this woman was docked points due to her head scarf, which was an open admission of them discriminating against her on religious grounds.


It isnt nearly as complex as you are trying to make it out to be.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Hooters offends many potential customers.
One has the option to go their or not.. the brand Hooters uses sexual appeal to attract customers. That is their image.

Abercrombie has an image too and that is why they have a dress code .. usually not to offend potential customers.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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One has the option to go their or not.. the brand Hooters uses sexual appeal to attract customers. That is their image.

Abercrombie has an image too and that is why they have a dress code .. usually not to offend potential customers.
The same goes for Republicans.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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All can as long as the accommodations are reasonable and don't affect their ability to do the job. That is what the protections are for.

That said, having religious beliefs doesnt entitle one to a job, an employer can use a myriad of reasons to justify hiring someone, A&F flat came out and said that this woman was docked points due to her head scarf, which was an open admission of them discriminating against her on religious grounds.


It isnt nearly as complex as you are trying to make it out to be.
Actually you help make my point. They could have done this if they had simply kept their mouth shut.
 
Old 06-04-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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One has the option to go their or not.. the brand Hooters uses sexual appeal to attract customers. That is their image.
A/F was trying to present a certain image.

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Abercrombie has an image too and that is why they have a dress code .. usually not to offend potential customers.
They don't any longer but Hooters still has theirs. The only legitimate role of the government here is to treat all the same. They clearly are not.
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