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Good thing minimum wage was never intended to be an actual living wage.
If you want to destroy the economy we should more forward with the OP's vision.
Actually, that is not true. The minimum wage WAS intended to do just that.
Here is one of my favorite quotes:
President Roosevelt expressed a similar sentiment in a "fireside chat" the night before the signing. He warned: "Do not let any calamity-howling executive with an income of $1,000 a day, ...tell you...that a wage of $11 a week is going to have a disastrous effect on all American industry."
Good thing minimum wage was never intended to be an actual living wage.
If you want to destroy the economy we should more forward with the OP's vision.
Really? Roosevelt might have disagreed wth you on that too.
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No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level --I mean the wages of decent living.
-Roosevelt
And destroy the economy? Really? OVER 95% of all the gains in the last 4 YEARS have gone to the top. We're among the richest nations in the world.....and yet somehow the level of inequality such that we dont provide living wages is OK? Really?
Who defines a living wage? If you look at the OP, it is not based on an amount, but life situations. How can you attach a specific amount to this when everyone's situation is different?
I save everything I bring home over 1500 every two weeks. The wife and I eat out whenever we want. I have three vehicles. Granted the house is paid off which is about a 450 a month savings.
As Warren Buffet has just come out and stated expanding the EITC would be much less harmful than raising the minimum wage if you really wish to raise family incomes of those at the bottom.
I don't understand your point. Are you doing this on a minimum wage job?
Really? Roosevelt might have disagreed wth you on that too.
-Roosevelt
And destroy the economy? Really? OVER 95% of all the gains in the last 4 YEARS have gone to the top. We're among the richest nations in the world.....and yet somehow the level of inequality such that we dont provide living wages is OK? Really?
What nonsense.
What are they gonna do with the command economy redistribution forced at the muzzle of their leftist state? Buy another sidewalk-crapping dog in addition to the one they already have? Increase their yoga schedule? Go back for that Ed School post doc slot?
that which allows you to continue living. if your talking about living in a certain lifestyle then everything changes. One can live better than the poor in past days without even earning money how days.
That sounds like a pretty good description of a 'living wage'. When the minimum wage was first enacted it was 1/3 of the average US wage at the time, since you want to quote FDR to define a 'living wage' should we also use the value he set for the minimum wage?
Good thing minimum wage was never intended to be an actual living wage.
You can have your own opinion about the utility of a living wage, but saying the minumum wage was never intended as a living wage is factually incorrect, as demonstrated in the OP.
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
Who defines a living wage? If you look at the OP, it is not based on an amount, but life situations. How can you attach a specific amount to this when everyone's situation is different?
I think it would be better to have a lower minimum wage, and complimentary initiatives like state subsidation of child rearing expenses. But increasing the minimum wage is probably more politically feasible than "paying the poor to have children" as the right would spin it.
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Originally Posted by mm4
What's this pathological, miffed, petulant preoccupation the left has with what the "1%" have? With what the Joneses have?
Ordinary people grow out of that stage.
What petulant preconception does any oppressed group have with their oppressors?
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