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Old 06-05-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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With the elderly population increasing and there will be shortage of people working at the labor force for many skilled jobs in the future without increasing immigration from 3rd world countries of which many have crappy education and barely speak English, shouldn't the government be responsible for subsidizing child care, pay for education including colleges, free school lunch, and child allowance like they do in Sweden, Finland, and other countries?!

Government should encourage and pay for people having kids if you want to sustain and keep the country alive in the future, otherwise it will collapse!

Where will the money come from? Well cut foreign aid and raise taxes on the rich, and cut military aid = problem solved.

 
Old 06-05-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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Another common sense approach ( if recognizing yours as one ) would be to offer teenage boys a bounty for successful impregnation of females. Sell it as a jobs program for youth. Russia used to reward women with high esteem for having babies. Maybe a catchy campaign slogan like " taking one for team USA" could get it off the ground.

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Old 06-05-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I don't buy a shortage of people to begin with. Gosh, the illegals are putting out anchor babies faster than our state can finance them! We already have a lot of people that are unemployed and graduating more all the time from high school, trade school, junior college and with Bachelor's and Master's degrees and many cannot find employment.

It would be a very bad idea to provide financial incentives for people to have children since, in essence, that is what the welfare system does. One look at people having children for profit would help one understand why this is a very bad idea.

A lot of the shortages in different fields really don't exist. There are places that people don't want to move to, salaries that they can't live on, working conditions they can't deal with so they chose some other job, maybe not in their field but where they want to be.

I do not see a labor shortage in the future. Even the farm labor is becoming highly mechanized as are production jobs of all types. We are doing more and more with less people working to do it every day.

And, what kind of people would be "producing for profit"? Not the kind you are hoping to get from that endeavor.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Why don't we employ all the people the government is paying for sitting at home now first, and then we can worry about that.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Government should encourage and pay for people having kids if you want to sustain and keep the country alive in the future, otherwise it will collapse!
They already do. Read the tax code.

We have too many humans in this world and all government incentives to have more should be ended.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Government should pay for us having children due to labor shortage in future!
This is as absurd as penalizing single parents by taking their children from them and making the children the government's responsibility. The best way to encourage people to have more kids would be to examine the reasons for why having children is expensive and, if the reason is originates from the government (laws, policies, etc.), then eliminate it.

With that said, you couldn't pay me enough to have kids.

[i ain't got time for that]
 
Old 06-05-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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Uh they already do that. Except most of the Governmental Bastard children never make it completely off the public dole.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: DC
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They do, you get a tax deduction for every child.
 
Old 06-05-2015, 02:02 PM
 
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Why don't we employ all the people the government is paying for sitting at home now first, and then we can worry about that.
Well I hope its a job that does not require much of a skill, because some of those folks sitting at
home, I wouldn't let change a light bulb, even if there was three of them doing it
 
Old 06-05-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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I don't buy a shortage of people to begin with. Gosh, the illegals are putting out anchor babies faster than our state can finance them! We already have a lot of people that are unemployed and graduating more all the time from high school, trade school, junior college and with Bachelor's and Master's degrees and many cannot find employment.

It would be a very bad idea to provide financial incentives for people to have children since, in essence, that is what the welfare system does. One look at people having children for profit would help one understand why this is a very bad idea.

A lot of the shortages in different fields really don't exist. There are places that people don't want to move to, salaries that they can't live on, working conditions they can't deal with so they chose some other job, maybe not in their field but where they want to be.

I do not see a labor shortage in the future. Even the farm labor is becoming highly mechanized as are production jobs of all types. We are doing more and more with less people working to do it every day.

And, what kind of people would be "producing for profit"? Not the kind you are hoping to get from that endeavor.
I agree, with increasing automation, continuing offshoring of jobs, and college/university degree oversaturation (an Associates is the new high school diploma) we need to more focused on the people we have already have. If anything we should pay people to NOT have children, or to limit the number of children they do have to 1 or 2.

Once upon a time a person with an Associates degree could get a well paying job (enough to raise a family) and make a good living ... today they are working minimum wage jobs.

Eventually there will either be no jobs ... or everyone will be required to have a PhD.
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