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Old 06-08-2015, 06:22 AM
 
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Newsflash: Illegal immigration was occurring prior to President Obama being in office. To attempt to blame the issue on him is pathetic.
He sure hasn't done anything to solve it.

He's made it worse with his de facto amnesties.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:27 AM
 
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So, that excuses Obama's adding to it by more than 1.5 times Bush's?
It's actually worse than that.

Bush added $4.5 trillion.

Obama has added $9 trillion and counting -- but called Bush "unpatriotic" for adding half as much.

Typical Obama hypocrisy.

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Old 06-08-2015, 06:28 AM
 
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Give me a break.

People need to get over the fact that Obama is President already and stop letting their personal issues stunt their reasoning. Illegal immigration has long been an issues that numerous politicians have ignored.

That is why this remains an issue. You people are selective about who you choose to hold responsible.
No, we're not.

You're the selective one in not holding Obama responsible.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:38 AM
 
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This is another sad commentary on the decline in civil discourse. I cannot read past page one after such horrible morally corrupt statements. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. You degrade those you know nothing about. BUT, because they do not look like you, they must be killed (as at least one poster wrote). My god, you think all CHILDREN south of the border are gang members that will rape your white daughters. Really? You do realize these CHILDREN are escaping poverty and violence. This ONE case is horrible. Rape is never good - no matter who commits it. BUT, to slander an entire people is just despicable. This kind of thinking is how genocide occurs. Thank god you people are a minority... Just disgusting.
You're the disgusting one for not being outraged by the fact that an innocent American girl was raped by these monsters -- and the fact that the only reason for allowing millions of people from the Third World into this country is to please Democrat politicians looking votes and American companies looking for cheap labor that depresses American wages, causes more unemployment, and saddles the taxpayer with welfare costs for the permanently unemployed.

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Old 06-08-2015, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It "peaked"? In 2006? Citations please?

Are you purposely leaving out the recent "tidal wave" since Obama tacitly invited our Southern neighbors to come to the U.S., legally or otherwise? His "open border policy?"


It hasn't? What about Obama's "Dream Act" Though it was never passed by Congress, but the World knows about it, and Obama constantly refers to illegals as "Dreamers," which doesn't exactly discourage the fence jumpers. it's an open invitation.
Non- partisan Pew Research is the recognized source of estimates of the number of people entering the U.S. illegally as well as residing in the U.S.

A "Dreamer" has been defined as:

Less than 31 years old, and

Entered the U.S. before age 16, and

Lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years, and

Has not been convicted of a felony, a significant misdemeanor or 3 other misdemeanors, and

Are in school or graduated from high school, or earned a GED or served in the military.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:47 AM
 
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Maybe you didn't specify children but you did say anyone with "those tattoos" should be killed. You were not specific. Regardless, it is downright un-American to advocate the slaughtering of an entire group of people based on the color of their skin and nationality.
Get off your high horse. People here are criticizing law breakers, rapists, gang bangers, criminals and -- yes -- people who come here illegally (or even legally) only to commit crimes and take advantage of Americans.

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One cannot get SNAP, Medicaid or any government "welfare" if one is not legal.
Wrong. They do get it.
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I'm pretty sure anyone that is on dubious legal status is not exactly trying to make themselves stand out.
Why not? No one is lifting a finger to find and deport them -- even when they're about to be released from prison. Open your eyes.
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Please don't tell me they are dropping "anchor babies" to get welfare.
They are doing exactly that. The baby, as an automatic U.S. citizen, qualifies the whole family for welfare. Again, open your eyes.
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Another disgusting term you people use to de-humanize and "other" those that you don't like.
It is you who are dehumanizing and "othering" your fellow, law-abiding U.S. citizens. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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It makes it easier to advocate their genocide.
Hysterical much?

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Also, how do you know most of these illegals are uneducated?
Because they are uneducated. Do the research and find out for yourself.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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So, that excuses Obama's adding to it by more than 1.5 times Bush's?
Last I checked, Congress controls the purse strings.

Congress has a spending problem. Their states and constituents demand they bring home the bacon.

The Iraq War has been re-estimated to cost $ 6 Trillion over time when interest on incremental debt and veteran benefits are included.

Congress authorized the war based on information available to them, at the time.

Reagan ran on the promise to submit a balanced budget. His admin never, not once, submitted a balanced budget. The debt trebled under his watch. Most folk did not care because a tax cut bone was tossed to them.

I hold every president and member of Congress responsible.
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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For the other part of your comment, how are illegals using welfare exactly? One cannot get SNAP, Medicaid or any government "welfare" if one is not legal. I'm pretty sure anyone that is on dubious legal status is not exactly trying to make themselves stand out. Think about it. Please don't tell me they are dropping "anchor babies" to get welfare. .
Yeah, this puzzles me too, especially all I read on the internet is "illegal immigrants myth debunked"

Care to explain this to us?

Illegal alien and mother of seven, Florida resident Marita Nelson, receives $240 in food stamps, monthly medications, $700 in Social Security and a housing allowance. And she has been receiving government assistance for over 20 YEARS – ever since she illegally entered the U.S. by swimming the Rio Grande — which up to 290,000 illegals have done since January.

And even though she initially had a job, Nelson hasn’t worked a day in 17 years – but still collects her checks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBpEysmJ62Q
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Old 06-08-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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With Sacramento wanting to make the use of E-verify by employers to check your status, can we blame them too?
Wanting and doing are not the same thing.

Only 4 states have made e-verify the law.

The bipartisan Senate bill sought to make it federal law.

This is an area where Rand Paul seems to stand out. Instead of the grand plan, what can a majority agreed on.no certainty Congress could agree on mandatory e- verify.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It "peaked"? In 2006? Citations please?

Are you purposely leaving out the recent "tidal wave" since Obama tacitly invited our Southern neighbors to come to the U.S., legally or otherwise? His "open border policy?"


It hasn't? What about Obama's "Dream Act" Though it was never passed by Congress, but the World knows about it, and Obama constantly refers to illegals as "Dreamers," which doesn't exactly discourage the fence jumpers. it's an open invitation.
What "fence"? You mean the one GWB was supposed to build but never did? Obama has deported more illegals than any other President in history.
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