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Old 06-10-2015, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Um, our Government was supposed to be the best in the history of the World-it has been infiltrated by nationlesss Corporations and Banks though.

You think we should just give up trying to reign in and control our Government? Which used to work for the people?
No. We should reign in government. Reduce it's size by at least 50%. End all corporate welfare. End all welfare. Require transparency. Stop government spying on citizens. Reduce LE spending. Stop government focus on personal life choices.

Then maybe they would work for the people.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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No. We should reign in government. Reduce it's size by at least 50%. End all corporate welfare. End all welfare. Require transparency. Stop government spying on citizens. Reduce LE spending. Stop government focus on personal life choices.

Then maybe they would work for the people.
See, this is where the majority of people find common ground.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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rich people don't create jobs........really?


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Old 06-10-2015, 06:43 AM
 
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No. We should reign in government. Reduce it's size by at least 50%. End all corporate welfare. End all welfare. Require transparency. Stop government spying on citizens. Reduce LE spending. Stop government focus on personal life choices.

Then maybe they would work for the people.
Do you mind government spending to help those that get sick or those trying to overcome addiction? I'm actually not being combative here, but am genuinely interested to see how people feel about that?
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: The South
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Is this okay with you all? What are some ways in which the bottom percentages can do better?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
I'm content with what I've got. More would always be nice.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The concept is ridiculous. It's just as ridiculous as claims to eliminate the IRS. Just because the bottom makes more, doesn't mean the top won't make more, too, thus, there will always be income inequality. It's not a bad thing. It just is.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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The concept is ridiculous. It's just as ridiculous as claims to eliminate the IRS. Just because the bottom makes more, doesn't mean the top won't make more, too, thus, there will always be income inequality. It's not a bad thing. It just is.
But we have a huge gap and people at the bottom are not able to move forward between excessive tax cuts for the wealthy and exploitative student loans.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:26 AM
 
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The concept is ridiculous. It's just as ridiculous as claims to eliminate the IRS. Just because the bottom makes more, doesn't mean the top won't make more, too, thus, there will always be income inequality. It's not a bad thing. It just is.
The issue goes far beyond "income inequality". If it were only income inequality,
there would not be a problem ! That is nothing, and is a natural course of human
affairs that one person's labor can and should be worth more than another's.

The problem is that we're allowing a permanent overclass to establish global hegemony
over the planet and populations into perpetuity. This global overclass does not have
to labor at all. It uses the creation of money and its ownership of assets to dictate
policies to governments which are supposed to represent the people.

There is little difference between a wage slave who earns 15 Federal Reserve Notes
per hour and a wage slave who earns 100,000 Federal Reserve Notes per year.
One's matchbox house is larger than the other's, one's motor carriage is sleeker
than the other's, but both are mere wage slaves who are employed at the whims
of the monetary elite overclass. A life spent laboring to purchase a home, have
little if any time for leisure and family/friends is not a complete or satisfying life.

The overclass doesn't work, it simply enacts policies to perpetuate its circle of power
and programs computers to increase its affluence, while refusing to allow mankind
as a whole to advance as a race - by suppressing technologies which can free us
and by continuing to nurture outdated methods which damage the earth and keep
us chained to their dominance paradigms which are enforced in many ways, all
of which are nefarious and misrepresented intentionally by their indoctrination and
propaganda techniques.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:37 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What is good for nationless detached corporations is not what is good for The United States.
They're not nationless nor detached. They're the profit-makers that 100 million or so American workers and retirees depend on to grow their pension/retirement funds.

I posted the EBRI link stating such Americans have $24 Trillion invested in those corporations, etc., and I posted a link to CalPERS actually refering to itself as one of the largest institutional investors in U.S. and international stock markets.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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They're not nationless nor detached. They're the profit-makers that 100 million or so American workers and retirees depend on to grow their pension/retirement funds.

I posted the EBRI link stating such Americans have $24 Trillion invested in those corporations, etc., and I posted a link to CalPERS actually refering to itself as one of the largest institutional investors in U.S. and international stock markets.
But what about the people who simply need a good paying job? You are sounding like a baby boomer who made out well who now wants to take away the chances you had from others.
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