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Sorry, I have the ability to read and comprehend, did you notice the "c" at the end of the first word of your second red block, that means there is a note at the bottom?
Of course not, did you read the note? Of COURSE not...
C. THE UNINSURED POPULATION......
Above is the first 3 words of "C".......The NOTE...............
GOOD GAWD......you are a true GRUBER...
SO now, please tell us what NOTE C means...GRUBER..
I already told you what "C" means; but here goes again:
"The uninsured population includes people who will be unauthorized immigrants and thus ineligible either for exchange subsidies or for most Medicaid benefits; people who will be ineligible for Medicaid because they live in a state that has chosen not to expand coverage; people who will be eligible for Medicaid but will choose not to enroll; and people who will not purchase insurance to which they have access through an employer, through an exchange, or directly from an insurer"
Are you trying to say that any of the people in that group should be covered by the ACA? If so which ones? The ACA initially expected all states to have expanded medicaid, that was changed by a Supreme Court decision. Do you think that undocumented people should be covered? Or how about people who are eligible but don't sign up- what would you suggest, putting them in jail?
Sorry, I have the ability to read and comprehend, did you notice the "c" at the end of the first word of your second red block, that means there is a note at the bottom?
Of course not, did you read the note? Of COURSE not...
C. THE UNINSURED POPULATION......
Above is the first 3 words of "C".......The NOTE...............
GOOD GAWD......you are a true GRUBER...
SO now, please tell us what NOTE C means...GRUBER..
I already told you what "C" means; but here goes again:
"The uninsured population includes people who will be unauthorized immigrants and thus ineligible either for exchange subsidies or for most Medicaid benefits; people who will be ineligible for Medicaid because they live in a state that has chosen not to expand coverage; people who will be eligible for Medicaid but will choose not to enroll; and people who will not purchase insurance to which they have access through an employer, through an exchange, or directly from an insurer"
Are you trying to say that any of the people in that group should be covered by the ACA? If so which ones? The ACA initially expected all states to have expanded medicaid, that was changed by a Supreme Court decision, many states decided to play partisan politics and not expand medicaid- whose fault was that? Do you think that undocumented people should be covered? Or how about people who are eligible but don't sign up- what would you suggest we should do to get them covered? put them in jail?
I already told you what "C" means; but here goes again:
"The uninsured population includes people who will be unauthorized immigrants and thus ineligible either for exchange subsidies or for most Medicaid benefits; people who will be ineligible for Medicaid because they live in a state that has chosen not to expand coverage; people who will be eligible for Medicaid but will choose not to enroll; and people who will not purchase insurance to which they have access through an employer, through an exchange, or directly from an insurer"
Are you trying to say that any of the people in that group should be covered by the ACA? If so which ones? The ACA initially expected all states to have expanded medicaid, that was changed by a Supreme Court decision. Do you think that undocumented people should be covered? Or how about people who are eligible but don't sign up- what would you suggest, putting them in jail?
Sorry, I have the ability to read and comprehend, did you notice the "c" at the end of the first word of your second red block, that means there is a note at the bottom?
Of course not, did you read the note? Of COURSE not...
C. THE UNINSURED POPULATION......
Above is the first 3 words of "C".......The NOTE...............
GOOD GAWD......you are a true GRUBER...
SO now, please tell us what NOTE C means...GRUBER..
If you're just going to lie about what's written in black and white, then I don't really see why I should continue educating you. My point is clear to anybody who's both literate and honest.
Look, if you're publicly incapable of understanding clearly formatted data that you yourself googled up and posted... then I'd suggest that you stop embarrassing yourself. You're just digging that hole deeper.
Here, once again I've highlighted the pertinent information for you. Notice that this section of the table shows CHANGE in insurance coverage. Change. The numbers for 'uninsured' are negative, clearly indicating that the number of uninsured is dropping. This is not difficult. It's not even controversial for the functionally literate. Look closely and TRY to be honest with yourself about what you're seeing:
Good Gawd. What a perfect spokesman for opposition to the ACA.
Yes, of course if you throw people on governmental plans the numbers are going to fall, but look at your own chart, and see how subsidies are going to skyrocket from $3960 to $6600 over the next decade..
How does a a 60% increase, equate to fixing the increase cost of healthcare?
And the final numbers are STILL over 30 million uninsured, as a result of a bill which was passed because we had slightly over 30 million uninsured, and we're spending $1.5+ trillion to do it.
Doesnt sound like much is fixed.. $1.7 trillion to move the net result down from 89% to 93%.. = FAILURE..
in fact, if you look at your own chart, after 2016, the numbers barely budge..
Tell me, if we were to move it another 4% at the same cost, where would we get the other $1.7 trillion from? Oh, lets for the hell of it take it to 100%, at the same cost thats $5.1 TRILLION dollars.
The Democrats specifically wrote the bill to only allow subsidies in states with the exchanges--to force the states to participate whether they could afford to or not.
The Democrats (and the President) then did this weird--and probably not legal--end run to allow people in all states to get the subsidies even though that's not how the law was passed.
But if the law--as written--is upheld by the Court, it will be the Republicans fault?
If it's not upheld, what do the Democrats plan to do to fix their law?
Has anyone noticed a pattern in how Democrats manage to keep their pet programs funded on autopilot, resistant to majority cutback votes?
Yes, of course if you throw people on governmental plans the numbers are going to fall, but look at your own chart, and see how subsidies are going to skyrocket from $3960 to $6600 over the next decade..
How does a a 60% increase, equate to fixing the increase cost of healthcare?
And the final numbers are STILL over 30 million uninsured, as a result of a bill which was passed because we had slightly over 30 million uninsured, and we're spending $1.5+ trillion to do it.
Doesnt sound like much is fixed.. $1.7 trillion to move the net result down from 89% to 93%.. = FAILURE..
in fact, if you look at your own chart, after 2016, the numbers barely budge..
Tell me, if we were to move it another 4% at the same cost, where would we get the other $1.7 trillion from? Oh, lets for the hell of it take it to 100%, at the same cost thats $5.1 TRILLION dollars.
Not very cost effective..
I don't necessarily disagree with most of that.
But keep in mind that the ONLY alternative presented by our loyal Republicans is to let people with preexisting conditions and/or a lack of funds DIE.
That there is a pretty low bar. And for all its NUMEROUS flaws, the ACA easily surpasses the "I got mine so **** you" approach.
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