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Old 06-12-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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Then homeschool it is. If that is where it leads us then we go there. The ability to vaccinate you is the greatest power in the world right now.

Many people don't even realize that aborted fetus cells are used in vaccines. Yes, folks as horrid as it sounds those aborted fetuses are BIG Business. I wonder if there has ever been an investigation into kickbacks for doctors that convince a teenage girl to abort so they can sell that fetus to a drug maker or against ER doctors that decide it is not in the best interest of a drug induced woman to give birth to her child so they abort it and use the excuse it would not be growing up in a miserable environment.
lmao so many falsehoods.

 
Old 06-12-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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It will not be just your children, but you also. National Adult Vaccination Plan. Google that.

Have you read that they are trying to breed mosquitoes to deliver vaccines? Bill Gates has talked about and come out in favor. Bananas and yogurt also. Will anyone know that the bug bites they get, or the food that they eat, will be giving them vaccines without any consent on their part? Not science fiction but is in development right now. 100% compliance from the public.

I can remember years ago when they pushed genetically modified tomatoes with chicken DNA to create a bigger and better tomato. No, they did not want to label these tomatoes as such. Vegan? Allergic to Chicken? Tough. Media at the time called it "Frankenfood". Would they today? Doubt it. Public has drank the Kool Aid and thinks anything science does, including vaccinations, is just wonderful
The mosquito idea is not very likely to work.

Researchers Turn Mosquitoes Into Flying Vaccinators | Science/AAAS | News

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So why won't it fly? There's a huge variation in the number of mosquito bites one person received compared with the next, so people exposed to the transgenic mosquitoes would get vastly different doses of the vaccine; it would be a bit like giving some people one measles jab and others 500 of them. No regulatory agency would sign off on that, says molecular biologist Robert Sinden of Imperial College London. Releasing the mosquitoes would also mean vaccinating people without their informed consent, an ethical no-no. Yoshida concedes that the mosquito would be "unacceptable" as a human vaccine-delivery mechanism.

However, flying vaccinators-or "flying syringes" as some have dubbed them -may have potential in fighting animal disease, says O'Brochta. Animals don't need to give their consent, and the variable dosage would be less of a concern.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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No you don't get it.

Were only asking for YOU vaccine jockeys to give us a choice. What is WRONG with that? Nobody is risking anything accept the pro-vaccine crowd. Do your research. Mexico just put a halt on vaccinations in May when 2 babies and several others were injured due to vaccinations. Just think if it had been mandatory:

Mexico halts certain vaccinations after 2 children die, 29 are hospitalized - LA Times
Please note, this was in one particular area. It is most likely a problem of a defective batch.

Mexico Halts Routine Vaccines After 2 Babies Die, 29 Others Fall Ill - Softpedia

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However, seeing how no other cases of adverse reactions were documented in other parts of the country, authorities eventually lifted this ban everywhere except in Chiapas.
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As for the decision to let doctors resume vaccination programs in areas where no instances of adverse effects were reported, authorities point out that vaccines are still the best way to prevent epidemics.

“Vaccination campaigns have proven to be one of the public health strategies more effectively to reduce the presence of preventable diseases in the population,” says the Mexican Social Security Institute.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 07:07 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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There seems to be an obsession with trying to get people vaccinated. Those that are not vaccinated shouldn't post a threat to those that are. So the logic is senseless as to why they want to deny the freedom of those that are anti-vaccine.
Do you understand how immunity works? Can you explain to me how vaccinations in your own words?
 
Old 06-12-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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Please note, this was in one particular area. It is most likely a problem of a defective batch.

Mexico Halts Routine Vaccines After 2 Babies Die, 29 Others Fall Ill - Softpedia
When vaccines become mandatory - your gonna be looking at an epidemic.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Many vaccines have to be retaken - think flu vaccine.
Do you understand how viruses mutate?

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Especially where there are so many natural solutions to these diseases that are test and studies and WORK.
If you say so. I won't discount natural remedies, but there's nothing comparable to how vaccinations work.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 07:29 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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When vaccines become mandatory - your gonna be looking at an epidemic.
Why? It looks like the situation was a bad lot in Mexico.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why? It looks like the situation was a bad lot in Mexico.
Not even that. The investigation is ongoing.

Mexico says bacteria contaminated vaccine blamed in 2 deaths - Washington Times
 
Old 06-12-2015, 09:48 PM
 
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So you took the opportunity to use my post to bash, priceless.

I think they pay a bit more attention to the 30,000 vaccine injury and death reports a year through VAERS than the pro vax group does.

Probability sort of differs from what your club says. It's amazing your club thinks out of 30.000 reports 29,400 of them are coinkidink. Fantastical low percentages. It's like the science of Magic Mountain. I'm sure you've done the math. Wink, wink, you little math guy you.

Healthcare in America is our 3rd largest killer. But hey, they still give some good advise right? After all it's not like they are making money off ill people. Crack, my bad, they are. Well, you can always sue them.
What? They are immune to lawsuits? Wow, that's so wonderful for them. I don't why that would make anyone question their commitment to health. It has to be their number one priorit.....what!!! It's profit! Well, I guess that's a big companies job in a for profit healthcare system.

But hey, science is like religion, never changes. Variables never come into play. Whatever the science community says has been carved into a stone tab....ooh never mind, that's religion. That isn't how science works. The science on something is only good until someone proves it isn't. Grant it that the drug companies have a lot more money than a mom with a damaged 2 year old but hey, nobody said live was fair right? Right!


Have fun in that club but you know, you don't have to knock others to get your point across. Oh, my bad, you DO! Ok have a fun time. The rest of your club will be along shortly to fire up the party. They'll brings all the beer, I mean handcuffs, uh, oh yes, mandates they'd like to see imposed.
your in the politics forum and you are asking people to be nice to a group of crackpots that have gone so far as to accuse some of us of helping kill our loved ones with chemotherapy.

Sorry sweetie the gloves are off and you are in the ring with them. Not going to let you hide them behind your skirt. Oh look one of your buddies just claimed fetal material.... Shocking huh?

I will defend their rights not to vax but am not going to sit by and let them lie to others.

Lol at your profits can't be trusted mantra and then we look at the other side of the fence and its people selling stuff too or trial lawyers funding Wakefield. You really just tried to claim that moral high ground? That was foolish.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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"The AMA issued recommendations to state health departments and physicians designed to banish non-medical exemptions from the landscape of American medicine. But the group, while large and powerful, is not a government body, and while it can (and does) lobby the government, it does not make policy. Ultimately, it will be up to state legislators to remove non-medical exemptions to immunization."

The art of science:

Killer AMA Announces New Mandatory Vaccine Policy
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