Leftist "Common Core" is dumbing down American students. (legal, racist)

[JohnnyMack]

Originally Posted by lvoc

They have Special Ed. Those that have special classes are generally unsuited to the normal education process.

They have the regular classes.

They have GATE which is generally an hour or two a week for the advanced student. That is it.

There is nothing that resembles breaking the main student body into three classes.

When I was in elementary school we had roughly 50 kids and a busy nun. That was the eight grade.

In Public schools 8th grade isn't considered elementary it's Junior or Middle school, and our classes were about half that size.

I believe we had three levels of mainstream Classes, above that were AP and below Special Ed, this was Public School in the 70's.

[minibrings]

Originally Posted by O.C. Ogilvy

Leftists want to make everything complicated, even a simple subtraction problem. If you don't think, you will vote for the leftists in both the Democratic Party and the GOP. Democracy exists to inhibit change. Wake up America.

This engineer dad can’t figure out his son’s Common Core math problem | Rare

Conservative Bobby Jindal supported that at one time. Not the only Repugnicant to do so.

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by JohnnyMack

In Public schools 8th grade isn't considered elementary it's Junior or Middle school, and our classes were about half that size.

I believe we had three levels of mainstream Classes, above that were AP and below Special Ed, this was Public School in the 70's.

Actually the grade structure is local and dependent on whether or not there are middle schools. Varies around the country. AP is always high school I believe.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by lvoc

Equality of opportunity is clearly not present if one is segregated to a non performing school by socioeconomic conditions. And that is what we have in fact.

Are you pro-vouchers, then?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by pknopp

There was a large discussion about "free" college education and Germany was used as an example. This is the model Germany uses. Should we use them as an example of what should be done or not?

Germany separates their students by ability/skill level. Why doesn't the US do the same?

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by lvoc

The problem is actually pretty simple. The bad schools are underfunded by a factor of four or five or so.

Total BS. Most of the highest-spending school districts have the lowest outcomes and performance levels.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by lvoc

There is of course no way Obama could send his children to a public high school.

Of course there is. Amy Carter went to a DC public school.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Sommie789

Most school in America have three levels of learning. Honors,regulars,and special education.

Not in K-8, which is where the foundation for high achievement is formed. Furthermore, many public schools now mandate that AP be open to all regardless of ability or the completion of prerequisites.

More schools opening Advanced Placement courses to all students - latimes

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Sommie789

It's maybe just your area. Most schools have basically three level of learning.

No, they don't.

[lvoc]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Total BS. Most of the highest-spending school districts have the lowest outcomes and performance levels.

Just flatly untrue. There is at least a weak correlation between spending and performance. See.

WingInstitute > NAEP Scores vs. Funding by State

And there are others.

It is certainly not the only important variable. I would guess the strongest one is the socioeconomic demographic of the student body. But do you really want to try and fix that one on a large scales basis?

I do not believe money alone is sufficient = but it is necessary.