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Old 06-18-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I've never understood them being described as "black". They are really more of a brown color, some darker brown than others. We could refer to them as Brownies, but that is already taken by young girl scouts. But it does have a nice, friendly ring to it.


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Old 06-18-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Why describe people based on their skin color anyway? It's a meaningless attribute that only the truly unintelligent think it important.

Is it offensive? Not really. People are used to be grouped in with people who share a common skin tone. It's pointless and ignorant, but not offensive.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:31 AM
 
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Name should be used for the race of African and Afro-Caribbean immigrants to the USA?

Ironically, recent immigrants from Liberia in a way have a right to identify as "African American" (INSTEAD of "Liberian American") because the nation of Liberia was created by former slaves who fled the USA for their homeland in the Old World. But I wonder... did the original African American settlers of Liberia intermarry with people from other African countries, people who had lived in Africa since time immemorial?

And what right to the term "African American" do Cuban Americans of African origin have? Or Puerto Ricans of African origin either on the island or in the 50 states?
Assuming you're NOT black, why do you care so much what they call themselves?
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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i think most west indians wouldnt be offended by being called african-american (even though they technically arent -- okay maybe most are west african lineage due to middle passage... but with a long enough timeline, evidence suggests all homo erectus descendants are east african). but if it is contextually important someone mite correct you and let you know they're family is from the west indies.

i think black is more generic because since the 70's/80's there is a large migration of non southern african-american slave descendants. same as you wouldnt refer to all caucasions as italian-americans or (par exemple) korean-americans as chinese-american...
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:58 AM
 
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It's natural to want to call out the "exceptions."

Male nurse. Female doctor. Short basketball player.

This is a way to claim some group is dominant, while the others are less significant.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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"SIGH* I hate when this topic comes up, because it always results in a bunch of know-it-all white people trying to give black people geography and history lessons about our own ancestry, and trying to tell us what we should call ourselves...
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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"SIGH* I hate when this topic comes up, because it always results in a bunch of know-it-all white people trying to give black people geography and history lessons about our own ancestry, and trying to tell us what we should call ourselves...
It's the same privilege of cultural domination that they have always presumed for themselves.

It's like someone saying, "Hello, my name is Pete" and getting the response, "Your name should not be Pete, your name should be Bill because I think Bill is more logical for someone like you."
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Why describe people based on their skin color anyway? It's a meaningless attribute that only the truly unintelligent think it important.

Is it offensive? Not really. People are used to be grouped in with people who share a common skin tone. It's pointless and ignorant, but not offensive.

It is very useful when the police are taking a report on some crime. You will hear the dispatcher ask, "Is the robber, killer, etc. black, white, or Hispanic." Then they know better who they are looking for.

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Old 06-18-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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It's the same privilege of cultural domination that they have always presumed for themselves.

It's like someone saying, "Hello, my name is Pete" and getting the response, "Your name should not be Pete, your name should be Bill because I think Bill is more logical for someone like you."
LOL, basically.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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The media--run by a bunch of old white men--use whatever term they want to use and always have. Their methodology is more subtle than most people think, but if the term "African-American" riles you so much about black people, that's probably their intended effect.
Old white men?
Why leave out that most are Jewish, or is that too un-PC for you to say?
Yet you have no problem pointing out the race and age.
So I guess if I were the PC type, I could say you were bigoted based on race, age and religion (I would have assumed you were anti-Christian without any evidence to support my emotion based assumption).



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Now you're saying "black"--not "African-American," which you were supposedly railing against. Is your problem the terminology...or is it really the race?
I have no clue what you are saying. I always say black. Always have and always will. Maybe you are mixing me up with someone who is afflicted with PC, which I certainly am not.

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