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Old 06-20-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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He killed more people than the Boston Marathon Bombers and they were called terrorist. I didn't see any arguments calling for those kids to be labeled mentally ill.
I think that had something to do with the fact that we were warned about the older brother by the Russian Government, and that he was at a militant training camp there. So, yeah they fit the terrorist mold.

 
Old 06-20-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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He killed more people than the Boston Marathon Bombers and they were called terrorist. I didn't see any arguments calling for those kids to be labeled mentally ill.
Why should there have been? The reason its questioned here is the report he is on psychiatric drugs.

Does that mean he is? Of course not but it gives one a reason to question whether or not he is.

I don't see much use in the labels. Terrorist, mass murder, etc. The end result is all the same.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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Well the opinion jury is still out on Hinkley's "insanity". I never would have declared him
legally insane if I was on that jury.
IMO, based on what I have read about Roof, he is not legally insane either.
But you are right, the jury is still out on that one....
It's really irrelevant what you say you would have done.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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Getting a free pass on the terrorist label. Is that better? Garbage is when you nikpick two words out of an entire post. Do you want to write it for me?
$1.00 a word.

What difference does it make if we call them a terrorist or mass murderer?
 
Old 06-20-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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$1.00 a word.

What difference does it make if we call them a terrorist or mass murderer?
If you're apathetic over what he is called then why respond to my post? Just keep it breezy and move on.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I keep highlighting the drug issue, but it doesn't get much traction. It always goes back to guns and mental illness.
Yep-because our media is on the same team as the drug manufacturers. It seems 1 out of 3 commercials is pushing some type of drug. We are the only nation in the World that allows drug manufacturers to advertise directly to the consumer-70% of Americans are on at least one prescription and we pay more for them than any other nation in the World.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 06:14 PM
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Can Suboxone make you a racist, hateful bigot? Doubtful...
Other psych meds, like SSRIs, might disinhibit someone enough to let the world know:

"What was measured in this SSRI study is likely similar to the limited, social “disinhibition” that sometimes occurs during SSRI use that has been noticed by many clinicians since the launch of Prozac decades ago. It is not a global type of disinhibition such as that caused by alcohol, but rather a limited type - a move away from excessive shyness, shame responses, and feelings of social subordination (”cringing” before others). Indeed, this is probably the mechanism by which SSRIs alleviate social anxiety (social phobia). Some adults have welcomed this effect as freeing and empowering; others have become worried that they might not censor their speech enough."

Can SSRI antidepressants change your personality? - Wellsphere

Or worse.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Can Suboxone make you a racist, hateful bigot? Doubtful...
Good point-mental capacity is irrelevant in this case IMO-especially with the confession and racist rhetoric.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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That, and to let the family members speak, which is very uncommon for a bond hearing. They did great.
I get letting them speak, but that is usually reserved for a sentencing hearing post-conviction. Letting them talk at the bond hearing may have been a poor legal move. Even if family members forgave him, that still implies guilt because you don't forgive someone who didn't wrong you. I can see Roof's defense attorney successfully protesting the family member's statements as being inappropriate and adversely reflecting on the presumption of innocence due Mr. Roof. It might put the entire prosecution in jeopardy. If Roof is found not guilty, I do have hope that Charleston won't riot. They have shown incredible grace in the face of enormous stress.
 
Old 06-20-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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I get letting them speak, but that is usually reserved for a sentencing hearing post-conviction. Letting them talk at the bond hearing may have been a poor legal move.
South Carolina's Victims' Rights Act mandates that victims be notified of all procedures, including bond hearings. It allows victims to make oral or written statements at bond hearings.

A victim is defined as "any individual who suffers direct or threatened physical, psychological, or financial harm as the result of the commission or attempted commission of a criminal offense, as defined in this section. 'Victim also includes any individual's spouse, parent, child or the lawful representative of a victim who is : (a) deceased; (b) a minor; (c) incompetent; or (d) physically or psychologically incapacitated."
(source: South Carolina Bench Book for Summary Court Judges - Criminal Section
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