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Old 06-19-2015, 05:26 PM
 
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Half of white Americans do not like black Americans. This is patently ridiculous, but it is very true. The reason they don't like blacks run the gamut.


You just lost a large part of any credibility you may have had with such an absurd sweeping generalization.
Presumably the 50% you think "is very true", disproportionately represents conservatives/Republicans than liberal/Democrats, right?

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Old 06-19-2015, 05:38 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Obama didn't need to discuss the freaks motivations in his initial speech to extend the nations condolences to the victims.
That is your opinion, and YOU are not the President of the United States, nor will you ever be.
 
Old 06-19-2015, 05:46 PM
 
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Anyone who thinks this shooting was not about race is an absolute idiot.
 
Old 06-19-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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I have no doubt some far leftist loons think Obama is a right wing conservative, but that is not the scale you want to judge your payout on.

Heck in a different thread one leftist loon actually said the NYT was a conservative paper out to get Hillary.
When I challenged them to back it up, they of course had nothing, but continued to make the claim. Even after I posted that the NYT has not endorsed a (R) presidential candidate in the general election since 1953, they were unconvinced.
That of course means they endorsed the likes of McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis among other landslide losers.

The point is that despite what a few uber left wing kooks believe, Obama is a liberal by most measures.
The Political Compass

Obama is NOT an extreme leftist. Hell, he's hardly a leftist at all.

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Old 06-19-2015, 05:50 PM
 
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The poster is referring to an incident in Moore, OK in which a Muslim attacked his coworkers at a food processing plant, beheading one -- that's right, beheading, right here in America -- and seriously injuring another before he was shot dead by the plant's owner, who was armed and carrying. Unfortunately for Obama, the attack did not fit his narrative -- Religion of Peace = good; guns in civilian hands = bad -- so he apparently saw no political upside to publicly grieving about it.
By definition the horrific murder in Moore, OK was not terrorism. The murderer did not commit the crime in the hopes of furthering a political agenda.
 
Old 06-19-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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Some of us see him for what he is, a racist, and for what he is not, A President.
How is he a racist? ESPECIALLY in this situation?
 
Old 06-19-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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If the shooter hadn't mentioned RACE, you may have an argument but it was the shooter who said blacks have to go. So how does that not fall into a HATE CRIME? Someone seems to try and make their own interpretation of this tragedy.
 
Old 06-19-2015, 05:57 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us...pect.html?_r=0

Victims Families Address Dylann Roof
 
Old 06-19-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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First of all, both Medicare and Social Security are not entitlements in the form of handouts. They are forced programs workers were/are compelled to contribute to. So unlike programs like Medicaid & Welfare that are giveaways, people expect to get their money back out.

Also as an FYI, people were never suppose to depend on those programs for their retirements, it was meant to be a supplement. Yet many people are too irresponsible to save, invest, and plan for their futures. The entitlement mentality has become an epidemic in this country, and it is a newer phenomenon than most realize.
Obama is of course a champion of these programs because he has never met a redistribution program he didn't love.

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Yes, my mom was sooo irresponsible, that she worked her entire life and raised me and my brother on her own, in 1968 with no day care and no high paying jobs for housewives and mothers, it was secretary or housekeeper. There was nothing left to save..and she was so irresponsible that after she worked 5 days a week almost her entire adult life and now gets a big $400 a month pension and $1100 in social security...the NERVE of her not to have a million dollars saved!!!
 
Old 06-19-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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Interesting way of looking at this.

First of all, she obviously worked for a living, and put in enough years to earn a pension. Why would anyone be dismissive/envious of that, or be willing to deride it is some fashion

Secondly, most state workers are part of a union, which is about as (D) as you can get.

My Father gets a pension after having worked 36 years for his local city/government. While he does not take an "F the rest of you" attitude, he has little sympathy for those who squandered their lives and didn't work while he was busting his hump for close to have of his life.

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It's not about envy, it's about hypocrisy...the Tea Partiers are trying to destroy unions at every turn. She was one of the loudest rooting for that Wisconsin governor trying to bust the teacher's unions while getting a union pension. Now do you understand?
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