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Old 06-19-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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How about, oh I don't know, regulating guns like the rest of civilized society? Just a thought.
Other societies don't have a gun for every man woman and child already in the hands of private citizens. Cats already out of the bag as the saying goes, backtracking on that is impossible. Trying to impose regulations and laws as other countries have done on law abiding citizens will just drive more of them into the hands of criminals.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I wonder what would Jesus do?




He'd likely act and not agonize over the whole thing.

Carry on.

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Old 06-19-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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I wonder what would Jesus do?



He's doing it, most simply aren't paying attention.

(Romans 8:28)

Not preaching, just sayin'.......(YMMV)





CN.......
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:29 AM
 
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I'm seeing this argument pop up a lot now. Even in the deep south pro gun state of South Carolina it is still illegal to carry a gun to church. These arguments pop up when there is a school shooting or a shooting on private grounds like a mall or movie theater, people suggesting that if it were legal for law abiding citizens carry guns then this wouldn't have happened.

So where do you stand on this? Bring a gun to church? Should we bring guns everywhere? I kind of wonder if the same people believe we should carry guns on planes in case of a hijacking, or guns in a courtroom in case of a shootout. Do people pro guns feel there should be any place you don't carry a gun?

South Carolina law banning guns in church fails to deter shooting suspect - Washington Times

Florida Deputies: Pastor shot maintenance worker in self-defense | Local News - WESH Home

Given the tensions in our country and the world, I know what I think.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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Only if that church and their congregation approve. The government should neither require it or ban it.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I'd look into SSRI's and mass gun violence before gun ownership rates.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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The big difference between the UK and the USA is that in the UK on a night out you might lose a couple of teeth. In the USA you might lose your life. Its quite hard to do a drive by stabbing. If you are cleaning a knife it usually does not accidently fire and penetrate two sheetrock walls and hit the kid in the next appartment. If a kid gets hold of a knife it might give him a nasty cut not blow his head off. Watching my local news last night their was reports of shooting deaths reported in the same manner as a Garden Fete is reported on my old local News back in the UK.
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Old 06-19-2015, 06:56 AM
 
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If more people in that church had a gun then maybe more people would still be alive and the gun man be shot earlier.

If there were more guns my grand parents may have survived and not die in Auswitz and died at the hands of the Nazi's and being taken away as lame ducks but able to at least take some down.

Usually cops are too late for a shooting as they are called after the fact and perhaps can prevent another person from getting shot but they usually are not on the spot when the crazy person starts shooting.

In the Netherlands there is no gun policy and look how many people get shot every year.
You would probably get made fun of for having a gun there. No one wants it needs one. In Scandinavia(from personal experience) probably the worst thing to tell someone at a bar is that you own a gun. They'd probably look at you like you are psychotic or a sociopath quickly walk away.
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Old 06-19-2015, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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It is not a hardware problem. Guns rarely jump up and shoot people.
It IS, however, a software problem. PEOPLE pick up guns (or bats, or knives, or canes, or crutches, or anything that is within reach) and kill other people.
Are they insane? Well, IMO, of course they are. SANE people do not ordinarily kill other people. Therefore, any "insanity defense" is ridiculous. It isn't an excuse. It may be a REASON, though, but if it truly is, lock that person away for the rest of his life so that his insanity can NEVER harm anyone else!
The gun is not at fault! It is a tool, just like a hammer or an ax. (Both of which have been classed by the courts as "deadly weapons"!)
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Old 06-19-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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There are 300 million guns in the US.

We're the most violent industrialized nation on Earth.

Yeah, more guns should fix the problem.


Nice quote-mining, right-winger. Jesus preached non-violence.

Matthew 26:52
Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword."
.03% of the population have died in mass shootings if we are chasing numbers here.
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