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Old 06-20-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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Horrible situation.

Also proof enough that even with strict gun control, the deranged can still massacre people.

At least three dead and 34 injured after man drives car at speeds of up to 90mph straight through crowds of shoppers in Austria before getting out and stabbing bystanders
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Got link for this?
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Yes, we also know about the knife stabbings in China.

Look, we're not saying that nothing bad will ever happen if you employ comprehensive gun control policies. We get it. You can't ban everything and have a perfectly safe society.

But even with these events in those countries, if you look up statistics on first-world nations, you'll still find that the USA is several standard deviations higher in terms of per-capita homicide rates, and gun crime is explosive. So they're doing something right, and we're not.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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Look, we're not saying that nothing bad will ever happen if you employ comprehensive gun control policies. We get it. You can't ban everything and have a perfectly safe society.
Nope.

What has been said here ad nauseam is that the massacre in Charleston could have been stopped with gun control. This is example enough as to why it doesn't. Cars don't kill people, guns don't kill people - those are just tools of criminals who kill people.

Austria, unlike China, BTW is as 1st world as it gets.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Shame someone wasn't armed. Could have put him down before more for hurt.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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So, where is this supposed Bosnian killer's name? Why are killers treated like rape victims by the news media (not just the US media)? Why is his name a secret?
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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Bosnian?
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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Shame someone wasn't armed. Could have put him down before more for hurt.
I thought this post proved you don't need a gun to kill?
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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I thought this post proved you don't need a gun to kill?
If deranged killer was trying to run you, a pedestrian, down, a gun gives you a way to defend yourself.
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Old 06-20-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Yes, we also know about the knife stabbings in China.

Look, we're not saying that nothing bad will ever happen if you employ comprehensive gun control policies. We get it. You can't ban everything and have a perfectly safe society.

But even with these events in those countries, if you look up statistics on first-world nations, you'll still find that the USA is several standard deviations higher in terms of per-capita homicide rates, and gun crime is explosive. So they're doing something right, and we're not.
Possibly, but it has nothing to do with guns. Those countrys are nothing like the US at all and I doubt you or anyone else would be willing to make the changes required to make the US like them. You can't just cherry pick one difference and say "see, they do it, so it will work here". The Germans have highways with no speed limits, should we make I-90/I-94 unlimited across the US? Afterall it works there.
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