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I remember this episode, it was quite refreshing to see a Conservative actually strike back with some substantive rebuttal. Although I may not not agree with Ann in her entirety, she does make quite a few points that are jarring if not painfully honest, and she does it unapologetically.
Normally Bill has a panel of Democrats and Liberals and one moderate Conservative wonk, and normally that moderate conservative is hammered and forced to defend hard right wing policies from a majority hard left guest panelist and often over ridden with crowd jeering from the Left and quick hollowed out satirical responses from Bill.
In this case though, Ann held her own and she did it very well. I wish she were a regular on the show.
Except back when those European immigrants arrived, the tax payers were not on the hook. There was no social security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, Obamacare, etc. When you came here, you either worked, or starved. I would imagine if none of these programs existed today, people would be much more accepting of "dirt poor" immigrants.
And I'm not saying that I disagree with all of these social safety nets. In fact, the opposite. If we want to preserve them, the smart move would be to accept immigrants that are likely to pay in more than they take out. Not the other way around.
Unless you are a ex-Nazi rocket scientist or physicist who can get us to the moon, we don't need you.
" We used to choose the best in the world" - Ann Coulter
When exactly was this fantasy period in time?
Most European immigrants were dirt poor, lived in ethnic/ religious slums in urban areas, took any unskilled low paying job in factories or the service industry. The first order of business was getting busy creating anchor babies. They lived with other immigrant families in small apartments and did not particularity assimilate well.
Most European immigrants were Christians, yet there was huge prejudice by Protestants against Catholics. Politicians did a swell job of pitting ethnic and religious groups against eachother. The masses went along. Instead of focusing on what they had in common they looked for differences.
Agreed, this is one particular point that I disagreed with Ann on. I have no idea from where she pulled that idea from. However I disagree with the use of the term 'anchor baby' in those cases. The act of producing children was more so an act of actually multiplying the household income by producing another worker--not for qualifying for a larger percentage of government subsidies or entitlements
Whether it be on a farm, or in a city dwelling, children were often expected to be 'little adults' back then, and they were expected to grow up fast--hence why we have the child labor laws that we have today.
I remember this episode, it was quite refreshing to see a Conservative actually strike back with some substantive rebuttal. Although I may not not agree with Ann in her entirety, she does make quite a few points that are jarring if not painfully honest, and she does it unapologetically.
Normally Bill has a panel of Democrats and Liberals and one moderate Conservative wonk, and normally that moderate conservative is hammered and forced to defend hard right wing policies from a majority hard left guest panelist and often over ridden with crowd jeering from the Left and quick hollowed out satirical responses from Bill.
In this case though, Ann held her own and she did it very well. I wish she were a regular on the show.
Actually, I've seen Maher tell the panel to quit hammering more conservative guests.
And it depends on the night how many conservative guests there are.
Actually, I've seen Maher tell the panel to quit hammering more conservative guests.
And it depends on the night how many conservative guests there are.
I watch the show regularly, I've never seen that. Normally Bill joins in on the fracas. He has a habit of underscoring the points made by leftists by injecting satire with bulleted MSNBCish talking point references. He usually keeps them listed on a piece of paper in front of him, and often reads them verbatim.
Generally speaking, His panelists consist of One Democratic elected or formally elected official; one unelected liberal, one moderate conservative journalist, and one guest appearance by a Hollywood liberal with a book and/or show or movie to promote on the side of him.
" We used to choose the best in the world" - Ann Coulter
When exactly was this fantasy period in time?
Most European immigrants were dirt poor, lived in ethnic/ religious slums in urban areas, took any unskilled low paying job in factories or the service industry. The first order of business was getting busy creating anchor babies. They lived with other immigrant families in small apartments and did not particularity assimilate well.
Most European immigrants were Christians, yet there was huge prejudice by Protestants against Catholics. Politicians did a swell job of pitting ethnic and religious groups against eachother. The masses went along. Instead of focusing on what they had in common they looked for differences.
None of this means anything; illegal immigration is a crime!
Agreed, this is one particular point that I disagreed with Ann on. I have no idea from where she pulled that idea from. However I disagree with the use of the term 'anchor baby' in those cases. The act of producing children was more so an act of actually multiplying the household income by producing another worker--not for qualifying for a larger percentage of government subsidies or entitlements
Whether it be on a farm, or in a city dwelling, children were often expected to be 'little adults' back then, and they were expected to grow up fast--hence why we have the child labor laws that we have today.
Sometimes true, but they didn't have much in the way of birth control back then, and they often belonged to a church that didn't allow for its use.
My grandfather came from Italy on a ship that was 400' x 40'. He arrived with $14 in his pocket and went to work on the railroads in PA. Later he moved to Chicago, opened a very profitable business and gained the respect of everyone in the community.
My grandmother came on a big ocean liner with a lot of gold. They moved to Chicago and opened a business making even more money.
They married, had twelve kids and put the surviving among them through college during a time when most of the teens in Little Italy didn't even finish high school.
They lived the American dream after they entered the country legally, didn't ask for a thing, learned English, and got busy working their way up in the world.
When did the American dream go from coming here legally, expecting nothing, learning the language, making a decent wage, and supporting your family - to sneaking in, expecting others to learn your language, and give you money and food stamps to support your family?
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