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Old 06-25-2015, 09:09 PM
 
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SCOTUS got this case right, save for the 3 blind mice who voted against the ACA. The case had no merit from the start.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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SCOTUS got this case right, save for the 3 blind mice who voted against the ACA. The case had no merit from the start.
Wow. Such a convincing argument......
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:27 PM
 
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It's the best of both worlds for the conservative Americans :They can keep getting their subsidies, and cry about big government to all their facebook pals at the same time. Win-win.

This helps GOV governors and Congressmen up in 2016 as the fallout from 10 million suddenly uninsured, with the overwhelming majority affected (w/o state exchanges) in red states would have made a Democratic Senate a formality. The states with the biggest quantities and % getting subsidized featured 21 GOP Senators on the ballot NEXT year.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I like this: House bill would force the Supreme Court to enroll in ObamaCare | TheHill

But we all know damn well, the clowns in DC will never do it. Sure, Obama and company love to talk about how great Obamacare is, except they dont want their own to be forced to use it.
Congressional Rs objecting to SCOTUS having an employer-provided health plan? Since they are so principled, let them take themselves off their own employer-provided health plan first.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:44 PM
 
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SCOTUS got this case right, save for the 3 blind mice who voted against the ACA. The case had no merit from the start.

"I'll take "Giants of Jurisprudence" for $1000, Alex."
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I just don't think conservatives branding the SC a failed institution and declaring Jihad on the ACA is really a winning strategy.
All it does is show those swing voters that their main agenda is to tear down established government institutions while removing any programs that benefit the masses. There's always an excuse for why it's bad but never a solution.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:54 PM
 
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The way our system of government was set up, there are three legs. Legislative, Executive and Judicial. The executive can veto the legislative. The Legislative can override an executive veto. Neither have any power to overturn the ruling of the SCOTUS. It takes the states and the people to do that. The SCOTUS reigns supreme over the other two branches. Your bolded is your opinion only. The SCOTUS also has rendered their opinion. They are the living voice of the constitution. It's the way our founding fathers set it up.



How wonderful that all would be if the SC actually ruled without changing or modifying the Law from what it really is.

That in itself is opposed to what our founding fathers wanted.
Maybe they can rule on that very thing as to the "intent" of the founding fathers,

No, that would not fit the mold of legislating that the SC has come to bring itself towards.


BTW, Congress can still change Law after the SC has ruled on it to their pleasure or rescind it altogether.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:11 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Default SCOTUS upholding of Obamacare is actually a really, REALLY good thing for Republicans

Here's why:

If SCOTUS had voted to gravely undermine the law, a Republican Congress would have quickly faced the task of addressing the fate of a law that according to polls most people want to be fixed rather than trashed. And how do you think that would have turned out? Republicans wouldn't be able to pull themselves together to do anything with it, and they wouldn't get a repeal through the Presidency.

In the meantime, things would start to unravel with real consequences for peoples' healthcare...and guess which states would unravel the quickest, since they take the most in subsidies? That's right...red states. O-Care basically amounts to a transfer of wealth from blue states to red states. Now, how popular do you think Republicans have remained with their electorate when this now becomes "their problem" that they dither on while their constituents start to really suffer?

This way, Republicans can continue to focus on what they're really good at: doing nothing and just complaining about the law from a safe distance. That polls much better with the conservative electorate! There's no risk this way of getting tarred with the blame if they are put in the spotlight to actually do something with it under a Democrat president. It all gives Republicans better chances of retaining Congress, and certainly at least doesn't worsen their chances of getting the Presidency.

So...seriously, you conservatives dodged a bullet on this one and you should be thanking the SCOTUS right now.

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Old 06-25-2015, 11:22 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Seriously... you liberals should be experiencing a 25 percent hike in your hard paid for health insurance so that people who don't contribute can have it too.... and we still have 30 million Americans uninsured....

Add in all the illegals which will receive it and none of us will gave health insurance in a couple of years...at least not what we had... we will have what dear leader doles out
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Perhaps Democrats should actually read a bill before "passing it to see what's in it". It would avoid a lot of drama.
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