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Old 02-29-2016, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I do not care why. Why is irrelevant. RvW doesn't state that these restrictions may be placed as long as they are placed on every procedure. It states that they may be enacted after the 1st trimester. Period.

Do you think those who wrote the RvW ruling didn't understand what they were writing?
This is not about a restrictions on medical procedures, it's about doctors attaining visiting privileges and clinics being brought up to surgical standards.
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Old 02-29-2016, 05:30 AM
 
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This is not about a restrictions on medical procedures, it's about doctors attaining visiting privileges and clinics being brought up to surgical standards.
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Old 02-29-2016, 05:39 AM
 
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Permitted.
We will see.
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Old 02-29-2016, 06:33 AM
 
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We will see.
You better consider what you wish for. As I said, if one court can ignore RvW the next one can also.
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Old 02-29-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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You better consider what you wish for. As I said, if one court can ignore RvW the next one can also.

I think you were speaking to the 2007 SC decision regarding partial birth abortions, this has nothing to do with that ruling.


Creating laws that effectively close clinics and cause an undue hardship is what is being debated, I would say that closing every abortion clinic in a state would deprive women of the right to abortions which is their constitutional right.


A History of Key Abortion Rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court | Pew Research Center
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Old 02-29-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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I think you were speaking to the 2007 SC decision regarding partial birth abortions, this has nothing to do with that ruling.


Creating laws that effectively close clinics and cause an undue hardship is what is being debated, I would say that closing every abortion clinic in a state would deprive women of the right to abortions which is their constitutional right.


A History of Key Abortion Rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court | Pew Research Center
The law didn't close clinics. The clinics seemed to have decided that they would rather spend their money on lobbying as opposed to offering their services.
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I think you were speaking to the 2007 SC decision regarding partial birth abortions, this has nothing to do with that ruling.


Creating laws that effectively close clinics and cause an undue hardship is what is being debated, I would say that closing every abortion clinic in a state would deprive women of the right to abortions which is their constitutional right.


A History of Key Abortion Rulings of the U.S. Supreme Court | Pew Research Center
Kinda like them depriving our ability to our right to keep & bear arms. Which is our constitutional right.
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Old 03-02-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hearing today


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The leading precedent is the court’s 1992 decision in Planned Parenthood v. Casey. It said that states were not permitted to place undue burdens on the constitutional right to an abortion before the fetus was viable. Undue burdens, it said, included “unnecessary health regulations that have the purpose or effect of presenting a substantial obstacle to a woman seeking an abortion.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/us...l?ref=politics
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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It's sad when requiring a safe environment becomes an obstacle.
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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It's sad when requiring a safe environment becomes an obstacle.
It's sad that the proponents of this law cannot prove that the environment prior to this legislation was unsafe.
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