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Old 06-29-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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They are doing their job issuing opposite-sex marriage licenses. You mean like the liberal CEO who was fired and blacklisted for telling the drive-through clerk at Chick-Fil-A was a hateful company for not being pro-gay Former CFO on Food Stamps After Controversial Viral Video About Chick-Fil-A - ABC News?

I disagree with what he said and how he said it, but defend his right to say what he did AND keep his employment. PC progressivism unjustly destroyed the man's livelihood and family (real family not fake one).

You won't find me being inconsistent about rights like 1st amendment rights.
Did the Texas marriage certificate state opposite sex marriage certificate on it, does the job description state on it to issue opposite sex marriage licences? Or did you make up it is opposite sex certificates?
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:58 PM
 
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Did the Texas marriage certificate state opposite sex marriage certificate on it, does the job description state on it to issue opposite sex marriage licences? Or did you make up it is opposite sex certificates?
Did it need to when only opposite sex marriage existed until a couple days ago?

Further issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couple was specifically banned by legislation in Texas. It was not lawful for a clerk to give effect to same-sex marriage:

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In 1997, the Texas legislature prohibited the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples. In 2003, the legislature enacted a statute that made void in Texas any same-sex marriage or civil unionThis statute also prohibits the state or any agency or political subdivision of the state from giving effect to same-sex marriages or civil unions performed in other jurisdictions.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:04 PM
 
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Did it need to when only opposite sex marriage existed until a couple days ago?

Further same-sex marriage was specifically banned by legislation in Texas. It was not lawful for a clerk to give effect to same-sex marriage:
And now that Texas law is null and void and thus government employees must comply with the new law.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:06 PM
 
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And now that Texas law is null and void and thus government employees must comply with the new law.
Duh. That's the problem. 5 unelected, federal lawyers usurping the people and the legislature. The Supreme Court can't make new law. One doesn't have to comply with an unconstitutional law that infringes the 1st amendment.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Duh. That's the problem. 5 unelected, federal lawyers usurping the people and the legislature.
You mean 5 supreme court justices doing their job of ruling on the constitutionality of laws?
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Duh. That's the problem. 5 unelected, federal lawyers usurping the people and the legislature.
They didn't "usurp" anything. People don't get to vote on whether other people have rights or not. Why can't conservatives understand that simple concept?
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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They didn't "usurp" anything. People don't get to vote on whether other people have rights or not. Why can't conservatives understand that simple concept?
Of course the people and legislature decide policy. There's countless examples of it. We'd have anarchy or a dictatorship otherwise.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Of course the people and legislature decide policy. There's countless examples of it. We'd have anarchy or a dictatorship otherwise.
That would be your dream government. You're a hard working foot soldier towards that end, complete with theocratic ideas.

Supporting same rights as everybody else leads to a dictatorship. Seriously?
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:11 AM
 
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Duh. That's the problem. 5 unelected, federal lawyers usurping the people and the legislature. The Supreme Court can't make new law. One doesn't have to comply with an unconstitutional law that infringes the 1st amendment.
They didn't create a new law, they ruled state laws unconstitutional. That's their job.
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:12 AM
 
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Of course the people and legislature decide policy. There's countless examples of it. We'd have anarchy or a dictatorship otherwise.
Wrong, the people don't decide civil rights. We're not a direct democracy.
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